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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That is exactly what the Minister and his colleagues in Cabinet have done today. For the third time, a Minister from a Fianna Fáil-Fine Gael Government has brought forward regulations to undermine and reduce standards in apartments. I read this document earlier today. People need...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: I would appreciate it if the Minister stuck to the question I asked. We have three minutes. It is a very short amount of time. Can he explain how he will achieve a saving of €50,000 to €100,000. It is a simple question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is the only question I asked. I have asked one question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: I do not need context. I would like the Minister not to talk down the clock-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: -----but, rather, to answer the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: No, I do not. This is questions to the Minister.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Can the Minister explain the cost reductions of €50,000 to €100,000 per unit? Is the Minister able to explain it in front of this committee? I do not believe he is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: I would like the Minister to explain how that will happen. His statement is very clear. It states that there will be an average cost reduction of €50,000 to €100,000 per unit. How will he reduce the all-in construction cost by reducing the size by between 3 sq. m and 7 sq. m? Can he explain that to us?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: I ask the Minister to talk me through the numbers. They do not stack up. His own Department's report states that reducing the size by between 3 sq. m and 7 sq. m saves about €9,000 per unit.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Does the Minister have data that confirms this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Does the Minister have actual data that confirms this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: With the greatest of respect, Chair, it is my question time. Does the Minister have data that sets this out in numbers that he is willing to share with this committee? I do not believe him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: The Minister can prove it to us by sharing with us his analysis and data. Does he have that data?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Have his officials done an analysis where they have shown, in each of the areas of development cost, what the cost reduction per unit is in an actual scheme? If so, will he share it with this committee so we can scrutinise it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Will the Minister share that with this committee and publish it today?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Will the Minister share it with us today? His officials would be able to do that during the course of the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Will he share it with this committee today while we are in session? Any one of his officials can contact the relevant person in the Custom House and have it sent across.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Today?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Priorities of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage: Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage (8 Jul 2025)

Eoin Ó Broin: Okay. When will he share it with the committee?

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