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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: We have excellent people working in the Department with regard to safeguarding us from future diseases. I have visited many of these facilities. I have met excellent scientists and eminent people who are working, who carried me into their labs and showed me all types of creatures inside all types of containers. I was frightened at how minute some of them were, thinking of the damage they...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: A total of 4,000 ha out of the 16,000 ha have been claimed. That is the point I was making earlier.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: It is 4,000 ha out of the 16,000 ha, and the point I am making is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: Yes, but it is very important use these questions to send out a message. Senator Collins is doing excellent work. With regard to the group she is speaking about, I welcome Mary McCormack. I have met the members of the group and listened to their stories.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: I am very concerned. I hope they see the proactive measures we are now putting in place to try to get us on the proper road.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: If I cannot answer a question, I will say that I cannot do so. I do not know-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: -----but what I am hoping is that a day like today might turn matters around. People such as Senator Collins asking very important questions such as this might help these people and encourage them to come forward. Keep doing what you are doing, and maybe you might help with the problem as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: The work has to be carried out and inspected, and then the grant is paid.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: The clearance grant is paid first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: No.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: Then they replant, and they get paid for that. Now, the other €5,000-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: Correct.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: No.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: In response to this specific point, I am responsible for what happens on my watch. I cannot and will not accept responsibility for anything that happened before my time. If I get something wrong now, Senator Collins can tackle me on it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: Yes, and I am making the point that I am not responsible for things that went on before I arrived.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: Yes. If Senator Collins can tell me who gets paid any sum of money before they do any type of work, I ask her to quote the details to me because I do not know who gets money upfront for doing anything.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: If I applied for a TAMS grant, I could only get paid when I produced my receipt. You have to produce the goods, do the work and produce the receipts. Nobody gets paid upfront under any scheme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: The only answer I can give on this is where we are today. We have our checks in place now. We are on top of safeguarding imports now. Like everything in life, if mistakes were made they were made. We are where we are . We are trying to help the people now. There are good schemes in place now. That is all I can say.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Ash Dieback and Other Forestry Issues: Discussion (16 Jul 2025)

Michael Healy-Rae: The answer to that is they will leave a lot of money after them if they leave the ground idle. No more than anything, it is-----

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