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Estimates for Public Services 2025 (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: This is just a transfer of a number of functions and also capital in relation to the purchase of accommodation in regard to provision of accommodation for IPAS. I would make an observation in relation to it. As referred to by Deputy Carthy earlier, we had interaction yesterday in the justice committee in regard to value for money in the purchase of properties, which will be seismic but over...

Child Poverty and Homelessness: Motion [Private Members] (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: I know the Minister, Deputy Calleary, ended by saying the Government will strive to reduce child poverty. What he should be saying is it will aim to eradicate child poverty. Not enough debates in here are about philosophy, but ultimately this is a debate about political philosophies. If you want to break that down into layman's language in relation to this issue, it is about whether we...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: Today's meeting has been convened with officials from the Department of Culture, Communications and Sport, with representatives of Sport Ireland and the Football Association of Ireland, FAI, to discuss matters relating to safeguarding policies and procedures within the FAI. I welcome the following witnesses: Mr. Cian Ó Lionáin, assistant secretary for sport, and Mr. Ciarán...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: I thank Mr. Courell. We will proceed with questions and answers. Members will have approximately seven minutes speaking time for both questions and answers. We have a rota. There will be a second round where I propose we will have three minutes. After the first round of members, if there are non-members present, they will be given two minutes, which is one question and an answer. The...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: I ask Ms Pakes to please move closer to the microphone as people cannot hear her.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: To clarify, I ask Ms Pakes to repeat what she said because I do not think people heard what she said the second time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: I encourage Ms Pakes to answer the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: There is nothing within-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: Please allow the witness to answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: I appreciate that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: I will give back some time to Senator Ní Chuilinn but, first, I want to set some ground rules. If somebody asks a question, unless there is some very specific reason relating to an individual or it has been outlined and discussed in great detail in here now by me and by others, then I would suggest, and I would hope, that Ms Pakes will answer the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: The Senator might wish to rephrase her question in a way in which it could be answered.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: We need to pause for a minute. Within reason, these are not really answers. I respect what was said in the opening statement. I do not necessarily agree with it but it is the FAI's prerogative to say it. Committees have asked these questions about correspondence that they have had, across tens of thousands of issues, many times before. I suggest that witnesses reconsider their answers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: It is actually the Senator's-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: I appreciate that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: However, no specifics. No people have been named. No specifics relating to any individual case or Garda file or anything like that has been referenced by me.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: Sorry, this is not a to and fro. In that scenario, it is extraordinary that, while maybe not in the level of detail for the reasons Mr. Keohane have outlined, a question on whether somebody who has a position in an organisation that is funded by the taxpayer was aware of issues or not is something that cannot be answered. I ask the Senator to continue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Safeguarding Policies and Procedures within the Football Association of Ireland: Discussion (24 Sep 2025)

Alan Kelly: I will give the Senator another 45 seconds.

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