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Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Business of Joint Committee (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: I have received apologies from Senator Eileen Flynn. I remind members of the constitutional requirements that they must be physically present within the confines of the Leinster House complex in order to participate in public meetings. I also remind them of the long-standing parliamentary practice that they should not criticise or make charges against any person or entity by name or in...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Election of Leas-Chathaoirleach (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: At our previous meeting, nominations for Leas-Chathaoirleach were sought. Two nominations have been received – one for Senator Eileen Flynn and one for Deputy Joe Neville. The way the d’Hondt system works here is that it is a long-established position that the first name received is put to the floor. If that person is elected, that is the end of the matter. If that person is...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Election of Leas-Chathaoirleach (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: I will now put the question about the second nomination received. On the question that Deputy Neville be elected Leas-Chathaoirleach of the Joint Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery a division has been challenged.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Election of Leas-Chathaoirleach (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: I declare Deputy Neville the Leas-Chathaoirleach. I congratulate him and invite him to say a few words.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Election of Leas-Chathaoirleach (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Before we move on to our major item of business today, Uisce Éireann, we will suspend briefly while the witnesses take their seats.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: The purpose of today's meeting is to hear from Uisce Éireann on its future work programme. I am pleased to welcome, Mr. Niall Gleeson, chief executive officer; Mr. Sean Laffey, asset management and sustainability director; and Ms Maria O'Dwyer, infrastructure development director. I remind witnesses of the long-standing parliamentary practice that they should not criticise or make...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. Gleeson. I have a few short questions before I call members in the order that they indicated to speak. He said that he hopes to have a budget between 2025 and 2029, which is five years, of €10.3 billion, which is approximately €2 billion a year. According to the information provided to us, Uisce Éireann had committed capital expenditure in 2024 of...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Is it included?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: What funding would Uisce Éireann have if it did not get the escrow account money?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. Gleeson think that a 10% cumulative increase per annum to get to the €10 billion is adequate, given rising costs? That will only be a real increase in investment of 5% or something like that. Is that adequate for the increase in population?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: So, really, we are not looking at a financial constraint here but a construction constraint. Many Irish companies will think that the UK's figures are ten times higher than ours and that there is ten times more work in the UK than there is in Ireland over the next five years. We will end up maybe not having adequate people entering for some of the work if there is more than ten times more...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. Gleeson confident of that?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: The last question was about the design, building and operation. Is that a model Uisce Éireann can go back to again?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: For everyone's benefit, I will list in sequence the people who have indicated a wish to speak. They are Deputies Tóibín, Neville, Clendennen and O'Hara, Senator Stephenson and Deputies Sheehan and McCormack.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: No more than that.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: By way of clarification before I call Deputy O'Hara, is the refurbishment of the existing network considered a capital investment?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Can we have a breakdown of how much of the capital investment is on new network for all the new houses and industry versus refurbishment of the current network?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Uisce Éireann: Future Work Programme (28 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: I would have thought that would be an answer the witnesses knew off the top of their heads.

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