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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as ucht teacht os comhair an choiste. I have limited time to try to find out some things I did not fully understand from the budget, if that is possible. I want to understand what money is being deployed where and that kind of thing. I will start with the €77.4 million investment for apprenticeships. All investment in apprenticeships is obviously...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: It is just about the amount.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I am sorry, but that is a lot of information. I am trying to find out first of all if there were 6,500 craft registrations in 2023, or am I wrong? Will the Minister clarify if I got that wrong because that was my understanding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Okay, that was 6,588 in 2023. I was reading the budget speeches. I got them printed and was reading them as I was going. It referred to continued growth of craft apprenticeship systems to 6,800 registrations. I assume that is for 2025. That would be an increase of just 300.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: What was said in the speech on budget day, and what the Minister has again mentioned was continued growth of the craft apprenticeship system to 6,800 registrations. That will be an increase of 300.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: No, this is just for me to understand that specific point. It is an increase of 300 then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: That is in terms of getting through them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I know, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Were there 6,500 registrations in 2023?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: It seems that if there were 6,500 craft registrations in 2023, and then we talk about budget 2025 where we see continued growth to 6,800, it just does not seem an ambitious figure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I welcome the investment 100%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I welcome the €77.4 million. Any investment or apprenticeship is important. I welcome that more trainers have been recruited. I have seen the figures on that, but it confuses me that we are talking about 6,500 craft registrations in 2023 and then 6,800 in 2025. I do not think that shows ambition. Any way, I only have two minutes left.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I did not talk about the consortia ones, but I am talking about-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I am talking about craft registrations because these are the people who want to build the homes we need. I welcome people doing all different types of apprenticeships, but to be honest I think it is a bit mad that we are talking about 6,500 craft registrations in 2023. Then the Ministers on the day of the budget start talking about 6,800 registrations as if this is massive growth. I turn...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: But the TUs-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: If it is off balance sheet there is a mechanism.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: I totally get that it is not without its complications. The Minister is saying everything is on the table, but in order for that borrowing for TU student accommodation to be moved off balance sheet, there is a process, and that process takes time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Mairéad Farrell: Has that process started, or has it not started?

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