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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Portlaoise is at the crossroads of Ireland. Deputy Carroll MacNeill is welcome to the meeting. She is having a busy day.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: If members want to come in a second time, they should indicate. I want to revert to the CAD system with the Commissioner, who was dealing with this. The new system has a cost of €15 million. Is the Commissioner confident at this point that this will reduce error and correct the situation where the information is not being transferred properly onto the PULSE system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Policing Authority carried out a review and made 13 recommendations. How many of those have been implemented at this point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: When this came to light first, the Garda Síochána took the position that the CAD system was flawed and that it was not down to human error in the station. The Policing Authority has done its examination and it came up with the position that service failures arising from the cancelled incidents and other workarounds by members cannot be attributed to failures in the CAD system....

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Last year, GSOC wrote to the committee and set out a response to a number of issues that we raised with it. According to it, as a result of complaints received in 2020, 572 criminal investigations were opened, which contrasted with a figure of 485 in 2019. This could have major financial implications. In its response, GSOC also stated that its investigators had carried out non-criminal...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is understandable enough. While I understand that many complaints will be frivolous, false or the like, in how many of the 572 cases involving criminal investigations would it turn out to be that the allegations being made were substantially true? Would it be a ratio of 50:50? I am trying to get a figure for the potential number of convictions.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: As the Commissioner, Mr. Harris will be watching them. If there were 572 investigations, the police service's management would keep them under watchful eye and see how many resulted in prosecutions or headed towards prosecution.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Harris might revert to us with a figure.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I understand that many of the complaints are vexatious or may not result in prosecutions because there is no justification for the cases.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy, please be careful when talking about a Garda investigation into a specific case-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: If the Commissioner could come to Deputy Carthy with a substantive response, that would be appreciated. Deputy Catherine Murphy is next.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The overall budget increased by 23% or 24% between 2015 and 2020. With regard to the development of policing, a couple of years ago, there was a lot of talk about changing the ethos. The Commissioner has outlined some of the changes that have taken place. With regard to policing, people still refer to An Garda Síochána as a "force". The Commissioner attended a joint policing...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know it is only a word but the Commissioner knows where I am coming from.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I understand that members have to deal with very sensitive stuff. They have to deal with very confrontational situations and so on but perception is very important for any organisation. It would be helpful if members within the organisation were to start using the term "service" more often as opposed to "force". I recognise the positive changes that have taken place in policing in recent...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Does An Garda Síochána see a need to retain the land? What is the plan for it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is there any outcome to the investigation into the renting out of the farm during the period from 2009 to 2013? Has that investigation included?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: My understanding was there was an examination or investigation of the use of the rent collected from that four- or five-year period. I am trying to find out if that has concluded.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I do not want the Commissioner to go into detail, but on resources for espionage, as it is referred to, there was a situation where diplomats were expelled from the State in recent days. Are there sufficient resources within An Garda Síochána to deal with that type of activity?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Obviously, the Russian embassy where that has happened is well known. If I can ask, in terms of An Garda Síochána, are there sufficient resources for ongoing monitoring of that type activity by various governments or agencies that may be involved in such - perhaps ones not as far away as Russia; perhaps ones that are closer?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is An Garda Síochána active on an ongoing basis in monitoring that type of activity or possible activity by other governments?

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