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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Justice MacCabe welcomes the Bill generally. What is the single biggest change it will bring about to strengthen GSOC?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: What is the biggest fence GSOC has to jump at the moment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: For members of the public making a complaint, GSOC has to decide whether it is admissible or not. Where should they go in the first instance with a complaint?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: On the 10% who do not come to GSOC, would some go to a Garda station first?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Going back to the PULSE system, has GSOC identified examples where members leaked information from that system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Has GSOC not identified any cases where they leaked information?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Have their been investigations into it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: On the cancellation of 999 calls, what role has GSOC had there? Are there investigations into gardaí or have any gardaí of any rank been held accountable for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is Mr. Hume saying the Policing Authority is looking after that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is more of a systemic problem, as opposed to maybe------

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Investigations into disciplinary cases is supposed to be wrapped up in 16 to 20 weeks. Is that happening?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: There is seven months lost. We will take that. Outside of that, will Mr. Hume cast his mind back to pre July last year? Are those investigations being completed in the 16- to 20-week period. I refer to the disciplinary investigations not supervised by GSOC but carried out internally by An Garda Síochána of officers. Was that happening?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: GSOC had to go up the ranks in An Garda Síochána and someone more senior, maybe a chief superintendent, would have to intervene.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Or an assistant commissioner.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Without putting Mr. Hume on the spot to come up with an exact figure, what would the longest one be? Would cases drag on for six months or a year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Will the witnesses come back to us with that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: As regards complaints, is there a red flag system if an above-average number of complaints are emanating from a particular Garda division or station in whatever area? To qualify that, I acknowledge some of the complaints made are not admissible, as can be seen from the figures presented by GSOC. There are many vexatious complaints but there are also some genuine complaints. If there are...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: To clarify, GSOC has not had situations where there are a particularly large number of complaints relating to a particular station or division.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. That is clear enough.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Brian Stanley: I understand that. It is about the ratio of population and the size of the district and all that. There are new divisions now as well. It is to be hoped they will work well. That completes the questions. I thank our guests from GSOC for attending and its staff for the preparation and briefing notes for the meeting. I also thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and his staff for...

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