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Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Independence.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: When the Committee of Public Accounts examines third level institutions, we are looking at their financial matters and not their academic independence. We do not go there. They might hold their academic independence to state that nobody could come at that at all-----

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: That is agreed. I am sorry but I wanted to get an understanding of where we are at. I call Deputy Connolly. Deputy Catherine Murphy had indicated. Is she gone?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Cullinane had also indicated. I will take Deputy Aylward before Deputy Cullinane because he has not come in yet. I am sorry for that interruption. It was for my own information.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is nothing to do with the HEA.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: We are talking about the work of this committee.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: That was the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Kildare and Wicklow are an education and training board, ETB, but the HEA is separate from ETBs.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Do any of the witnesses wish to comment on Springboard?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: What is it expected to be in 2019?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: At 4 p.m. you might walk into us.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is that in third level education?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: I must interrupt for a moment to say that I have to leave. I will ask Deputy Aylward to take the Chair as I have another commitment now.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will the Deputy need another five or ten minutes?

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will stay then, Deputy. Sorry about that Deputy Aylward.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: I believe we have written to Mr. Ó Foghlú in the last-----

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: A letter was sent during the course of this week specifically on this and we will be talking to Mr. Ó Foghlú separately on this issue.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: With the full knowledge the Committee of Public Accounts will come back to Mr. Ó Foghlú.

Public Accounts Committee: HEA Financial Statements 2017 (18 Oct 2018)

Seán Fleming: Separately. This is an issue Mr. Ó Foghlú.

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