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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has two minutes left.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Commissioner Coxon wants to answer that question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank the deputy commissioner. We are over time. I will let Deputy Munster back in for a second round of questions. Following on from her question, I ask Dr. Coxon if there is a timeframe for the completion of those disciplinary procedures.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: It has been going on for months.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. Perhaps Dr. Coxon might come back to the committee with that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Dr. Coxon. Some Deputies are at other committees this morning. Deputy Carroll MacNeill has been counting Seanad votes. Deputy Verona Murphy is next.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is over time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Sorry, the Deputy is over time. If the officials do not have the figure at this time, maybe it is available elsewhere. I think I saw it in one of the documents.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I ask the Commissioner to come back in briefly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Turning to the payroll overpayment, my figures suggest it was €2.2 million, relating to 1,242 cases in 2020. Some €1.5 million of that was recovered and related to 872 cases that had a recovery plan in place. What happens with the other €700,000? Are there moves afoot to try to get a repayment plan in place for those? What is the longest time that a payroll overpayment...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: What are the circumstances where an overpayment would happen? Is it administration or the computer system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: There was a sum of €202 million paid in overtime and allowances in 2020. How much of that was allowances? Would it be 20% or 30%?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: The allowances are over half that. I was reading them yesterday. There are 47 or 48 different allowances.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: So €98 million of the €202 million was overtime.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. One individual had an overtime and allowance payment of €110,000 in that year. How would that come about in one case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: My understanding is that this is on top of the salary. It seems an excessive amount for one individual. What is the average amount in overtime payments for rank-and-file gardaí per annum?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: You might refer back to the committee with that, perhaps in €10,000 categories.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: Regarding transport and vehicles, there are 3,100 vehicles. The number increased particularly during 2020 with hire and some purchases. There were 641 accidents in 2020. That is one in five. I understand the nature of the job for gardaí. They are involved in high-speed chases and situations where cars are damaged in public order incidents. Where the damage is inflicted like that,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: They would include where gardaí might drive into a public order situation and there might be sticks or stones or whatever else and vehicles are damaged. Obviously, members are put at risk as well. That figure would include that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(31 Mar 2022)

Brian Stanley: I have a question about procurement. There was non-compliant procurement of €8.7 million in the annual accounts. That was reported for 2021. Was any part of that related to payment to a medical team or a medical company to take blood samples?

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