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Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: A test case was presented to the Oireachtas that had been made by the Department of Social Protection with the agreement of the Revenue Commissioners. It was done primarily in respect of the courier sector. I understand that practice has ceased. Will Mr. Cody confirm that and whether a cost associated with the test has been extrapolated? How much did it cost the State? Was there any...

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: We will get that. It was publicised in the House. Mr. Cody mentioned inspections or investigations within the construction sector. Will he confirm whether Revenue has carried out any similar investigations in respect of this issue within the meat-processing sector?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: A particular type of company engages in this. Can I extrapolate from what Mr. Cody stated that he accepts there remains an issue with bogus self-employment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Mr. Cody said that he would come back to us about bogus self-employment in writing. Could I prompt him to examine correspondence that was sent to this committee by Revenue on 9 August 2000? The reference I am told is PS 3422M/00. That correspondence enclosed letters dated 7 March 1997 and 3 April 1997 to K. Ryan & Co, which represented courier firms, an issue we discussed earlier....

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I am not casting aspersions one way or the other.

Public Accounts Committee: 2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 – Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Central Fund Related Accounts - Revenue Account 2019
(19 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Whenever an appointment process is heavily skewed, whether that be by geography, gender of whatever the case may be, it is natural that questions will be asked.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: No, you can go first, Chairman.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: The correspondence is fairly comprehensive but I do not think the issue of payments which have been inordinately delayed is adequately addressed. I have two questions. Caranua is to come before this committee, is it not?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Is there any fear that the winding-down Bill would be enacted before that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: Perhaps the Chair could offer guidance as to how to respond to that. I have a question for the Comptroller and Auditor General. When these matters are transferred to the Department of Education, is there any fear that accountability measures will be lost in translation? In other words, if issues arise subsequently in respect of due diligence or best practice, will the Department be able to...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I do not mean to cast aspersions, but it appears to be a recipe for disaster. Questions arise. One can almost write the script for Department of Education officials coming before this committee in two or three years' time. We know what they will say. It will be so easy for them to say that something related to a previous body and that the Department was not involved. We are talking about...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: We must note again the very severe restrictions on this committee that prevent us from carrying out our work and objectives in a full way and in a manner that serves the public interest. The committee is confined to two-hour meetings twice a week on two separate days. That includes dealing with all the private matters, as committees are required to do. There have also been attempts via...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: It goes to a much wider issue in terms of procurement and the ability of public bodies, whether local authorities or otherwise, to assess the track record of companies when making decisions. I know of situations where the bond that had been secured was of a value much less than the value of the outstanding works, and the developers just walked away and said, “Keep the bond”,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: It is important that, for our own consideration, we would request of NAMA its response to the charge that has been made. We know NAMA has been entrusted with a huge level of portfolios and loans that can be either a force for good or bad in terms of how they are utilised and the circumstances involved. A trade union has made very serious assertions that the actions of NAMA have resulted in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I am sure there are companies involved that will quite happily pass the buck to NAMA and say it is the cause. It is not to say one way or another that this is the fault of NAMA or the company. However, it would be appropriate for NAMA to share with us its initial response and we can then make a determination as to whether there is a role for this committee to examine it further.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I propose that we write to NAMA asking it for its response to BATU in this regard.

Written Answers — Department of An Taoiseach: Covid-19 Pandemic (17 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: 144. To ask the Taoiseach if his Department or an agency operating under his Department has encountered expenditure in respect of hand sanitisation products or other PPE products that were subsequently subject to a recall by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine in 2020; if so, the expenditure in respect of such products; and if the expenditures will be recouped from the sellers...

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Coroners Service (17 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: 661. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality the reason for the delay in the issuance of a coroner's certificate, interim or otherwise, in the case of a person (details supplied); and if she will make a statement on the matter. [36359/20]

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges for the Forestry Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: I thank our guests from Coillte for being here. I have a number of questions and I will try to be as brief as possible. As the Chairman mentioned, Ms Hurley mentioned the licensing backlogs and in speaking about the solutions, seemed to have a heavy focus on resources within the Department and the forestry appeals committee. Are resources the only deficiency or is there a need for further...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Challenges for the Forestry Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Nov 2020)

Matt Carthy: It relates to forestry. The forest in question has been moving because of developments there.

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