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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Nor was it said.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I wish to clarify. I suggested that Dr. Mills had contempt for the proposition. I assure Dr. Mills that I did not mean anything denigratory by that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: He was quite forceful in making that point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Of course. I thank Dr. Mills. He is certainly not accused of being contemptuous of anybody. However, I do hold to my point that I think he was wrongly contemptuous of the proposition that we might refuse to change laws because of the impact that very change might have in leading to future laws, the effects of which might be undesirable. Dr. Mills spoke eloquently on the subject of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I again thank our three witnesses again. I addressed many of my previous comments to Dr. Mills, so now I will focus on directing my queries to Mr. Kelly and Professor Huxtable, if I have time. Starting with Mr. Kelly, he used the phrase "very niche and narrow" a couple of times. Am I right in saying that some would say that what has happened in Canada is that we have seen a cascading...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Is it not the truth, though, that the Supreme Court in the Fleming judgment did not delimit the extent to which legislation could be brought forward in this area?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Who said the window of opportunity was small?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: However, it did not state it would be ruled out in other cases.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: That is my point. It has not actually delimited the extent to which legislation could be brought forward in this area.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Is that Dr. Mills's view?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Legal Protections and Sanctions: Discussion (4 Jul 2023)

Rónán Mullen: That does not mean mandated. It just meant that the prohibition was not in violation of the Constitution. It did not decide that there was a "thus far and no further" situation in terms of how the Oireachtas might legislate in this area, should it wish to do so. It simply stated the courts might have to have regard to whether balances were taken into account, but did not discuss the extent...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (29 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I also thank Senator Keoghan and, indeed, the Seanad Office for guiding us through the necessary formalities on this. I propose an amendment to the Order of Business: "That No. 15 be taken before No. 1 today." This relates to my Bill, the Broadcasting (Restriction of Salaries) Bill 2023, which I hope will be debated in the Seanad next week. We are all aware of the crisis that has broken...

Seanad: Broadcasting (Restriction of Salaries) Bill 2023: First Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I move: That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to amend the Broadcasting Act 2009 to provide for transparency in the public interest in relation to the remuneration of certain individuals pursuant to contracts of employment and contracts for services with corporations, and to provide for connected matters.

Seanad: Broadcasting (Restriction of Salaries) Bill 2023: First Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Next Tuesday.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I welcome the witnesses and thank them for their input. To avoid confusion, I want to clarify the language that I will use here. As a committee, we have not yet decided what we mean by assisted dying. I am going to rely on the distinction made in Canada where "medically assisted dying" comports euthanasia, but also comports what I will term "assisted suicide". This is where the person is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Does it follow from that, therefore, that Dr. Campbell does not support any restrictions by reference to terminal illness or prognosis since you cannot interpret another person's suffering? Is she saying, if you take a purely autonomous view, you just have to take that person's word for it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: If Dr. Campbell is saying it is all subjective, in that no value judgment can be made about another person's suffering, is she not also saying there is no basis on which we could credibly deny anybody a request to end their life?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: I submit that involves a value judgment on somebody else's suffering. As Dr. Campbell mentioned the Netherlands-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: Dr. Campbell talked about the transparency in the Netherlands but there was an appalling case, which Dr. Campbell referenced but did not detail, where a woman who had requested assisted dying well in advance was sedated to prevent her from objecting and, when she struggled, it was basically forced. Is that not the reason people have to be worried that this actually changes everything? Once...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Assisted Dying: Consent and Capacity: Discussion (27 Jun 2023)

Rónán Mullen: In that case it was not at the person's request because it was well after it. It was based on the husband's statement that she decided-----

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