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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I accept that, yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: We are only halfway through the year. What will the HSE do in the next three months of June, July and August, and before we get into the winter period, to remedy this sad situation in accident and emergency units that are well funded?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: We ask that the HSE give this absolute priority and to knock heads together on it. I also understand, although I do not know much about it, that a system has been put in place in St. Luke’s General Hospital, Kilkenny-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is working fairly well. I ask that perhaps the learning from that might be replicated throughout the country.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Deputy, I ask you to treat the witnesses with respect.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: No, by all means the Deputy is entitled to engage in robust questioning. Continue, please.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: This home care issue is a particular concern, but would it be helpful if we got a brief outline of what hours are being provided and by how much it is falling short?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has one minute left.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: In fairness to Deputy Verona Murphy, she raised two issues. Regarding the CAMHS teams, we all know there are gaps in the system. I saw the figures recently. I know it is not possible to flick a light switch and fix the problems in this context, but in a few sentences will either Mr. Watt or Mr. Reid outline, for the benefit of the Deputy and the other members of the committee, what is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Whomever wishes can take this question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know. Hold on for one second, though, Mr. Reid. I have to try to chair this meeting and there are several speakers to fit in. I wish to be fair to the witnesses too. We all know this is a challenge. Everyone in this room wishes things to go in the one direction, namely, to improve our health system. There is no argument about that. Whether it is the members, the witnesses or their...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Regarding the specific efforts being made, and I do not wish to be speaking for the Deputy, because she is well able to speak for herself-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: -----but I have observed what has been going on in this area and what is being done to fill these existing gaps. I know it is a pipeline issue. That is what it appears like. I refer to issues in respect of workforce planning and long-term planning, etc. Therefore, I ask Mr. Reid or Mr. Watt to respond to Deputy Verona Murphy to ensure she will have some idea of the situation in this...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Let us try to get one answer to this question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am trying to be fair to the Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: That is a big-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I understand it is frustrating for the Deputy. That is why I want to try to get the Deputy an answer. I want to get some answer in relation to the child and adolescent mental health services, CAMHS, teams.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know that. The Deputy-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health (Resumed)
Health Service Executive: Financial Statements 2020
(26 May 2022)

Brian Stanley: If this is acceptable, I would ask that the officials would come back to the Deputy with a written answer on what is being done specifically in relation to CAMHS. I am mindful of that, but I am also mindful of the fact that the Deputy will not be back because she has parliamentary duties that she cannot avoid. I am mindful of that and watching that. We will get everyone in.

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