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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: Is there a breakdown on how many were-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: I understand the point Ms Crimin is making about the compliance approach. In light of the number of properties the RTB is dealing with, however, 100 is only a drop in the ocean. I encourage the RTB to be more ambitious and to consider a higher quantity. My final question-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: I thank Ms Crimin. I will come back in again later.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: A figure was given earlier of 4,810 for the first quarter of 2024. The point was made as to how there were 48,000 renewals and in the same quarter there were 18,000 new tenancies. How many tenancies were lost in that period? I am trying to get the whole figure. Obviously, some tenancies would have become defunct in the first quarter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: I hear what Ms Crimin is saying but if we have the figures for how many renewals there are, how many are new and how many notices to quit there are, there should also be a figure for how many have stopped.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: Some tenancies might just go on their own. The tenant might move out, someone might pass away or whatever the reason and the tenancy might not keep going. If Ms Crimin does not have that figure today, that is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: I know that but there are some tenancies that do stop.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: I thank Mr. Keegan. On the 4,810 notices to quit in the first quarter of this year, the point was made that not all of those might have ended up with a person leaving the property. Are we saying those 4,810 were all valid or are we saying what proportion of them were valid?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: Yes. I know that much of the data released by the RTB is very positive. I keep a close eye on it. I think the Chair said it afterwards that with regard to where the RTB was and where it is now, there has been a really good progression and we want to see that continue. Is there additional data regarding disputes? In particular, I am interested in outcomes of disputes county by county. Is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: Can a landlord be tax compliant and unregistered?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: Okay, fair enough. I look at a figure the witnesses gave earlier that there were 17,000 in non-compliance in 2023. When the RTB wrote out to them - I assume it wrote out to them on email - in 2024, that went down to 1,500.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: Was it not? I am sorry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: On the 15,500 that Ms Crimin is talking about there, she said some of those were regularised. What does she mean by that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: Of the 15,500, do we know how many of them were tenancies that were regularised or how many of them finished that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: It could be quite possible that a lot of people, because of this, received notices to quit or actually had to leave.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: What I have seen in my time is that, to get around RPZs, tenants are given notices to quit because their rent might be, let us say, less than what other people would be paying locally. Then the landlord paints the apartment and let it again. I know of cases in Cork, and one building specifically, where the landlord evicted most of the people there because their rent was so low. He did it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: That is the point I made earlier about the 109. I could think of 30 or 40 cases in my constituency alone where that has happened in recent years. That is why I urge the RTB to increase that figure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: When people get the notice to quit and leave, they feel there is no point. They are out of the house and moved on. They feel they are gone and the landlord gets away scot-free. I encourage people to contact the RTB and give it the information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies Board: Discussion (2 Jul 2024)

Thomas Gould: Yes.

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