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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Níl aon leithscéal faighte againn. No apologies have been received. Is mian liom na riachtanais bhunreachtúla seo a leanas a mheabhrú do chomhaltaí. Nuair atá páirt á glacadh acu i gcruinnithe poiblí, caithfidh comhaltaí a bheith i láthair go fisiciúil laistigh de theorannacha suímh Theach Laighean. Ní...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Gabhaim buíochas leis an Dr. Nuseibah. I invite Ms Mahony to make her opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: I will now invite members to discuss. I wish to remind members participating remotely to use the raise hand feature and to cancel it once they have spoken. In the order that I have received them, the contributions will be as follows: Deputy Brennan; Senator Higgins; Deputy Nash; Deputy Burke; Deputy Doherty; and Senators Murphy and O'Reilly. If there is a need for flexibility, we will...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: I ask the witnesses to be relatively succinct in responding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Try to be succinct.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: This is the way committee meetings are conducted. It is done in a pushing-for-answers kind of way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: We need to start wrapping up on this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Will Dr. Nuseibah answer briefly? There will be more questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Sorry, there is a vote in the Seanad. I wanted to highlight that for the Senator.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Unfortunately, we do not have the bells here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: I am conscious that the voting bell started a minute or two before the Senator started speaking. He has used about four minutes. The Senator may leave when necessary. I understand Dr. Nuseibah must also leave at some point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: I understand.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Is Senator O'Reilly finished?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: You absolutely may. Have a safe flight.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Ms Mahony or Mr. Marmion may like to continue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: We have to wrap up on this but there will be time for a second round.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: We will come back to it. I need to move on to an Teachta Timmins. I can then follow up with my own questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: I ask Mr. Marmion not to name anyone specifically.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: It is up to the member because it is the member's time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Israeli Bond Programme: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: There were a few interesting things said this evening. Dr. Nuseibah mentioned that individuals are obviously also bound by the Genocide Convention, and it could have a long-term impact on individuals. There was also a discussion last week about whether the Central Bank or the State are bound by the Genocide Convention, and the impact that has. My understanding from what Dr. Nuseibah said...

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