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Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: No, LAWPRO falls under local government.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: Does the Deputy mean Waterways Ireland?

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: I remember the river basin management plans in my previous Department. LAWPRO was involved there.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: We have Inland Fisheries Ireland. We have the Loughs Agency, which is the North-South body. I attended the North-South Ministerial Council in Carlingford just this month. There is work that focuses on Lough Foyle, Carlingford Lough and so on. I am trying to see the range of other measures to be helpful. There are the wild salmon and sea trout tagging scheme regulations. The status of...

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: I am looking at them today. That sort of research and counting is done to provide an assessment and estimate of fish stocks in each of the rivers we are responsible for.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: The number of fish.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: That was dealt with yesterday.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: The MARA and the-----

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: The Deputy asked about the marine-----

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: That is okay. Does the Deputy mean the marine protected areas legislation?

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: That is something that will move across. It has not yet, but I think I mentioned to the committee, and I have talked to the Irish Environmental Network, about maybe advancing it through the national DMAP. We went from 3% to 10% marine protected areas over the course of the last Government and we are committed to doing 30%. We will do it. I would like to see primary legislation on it....

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: That is fine.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: It would be. It is a decision on whether we go with the Bill or with the DMAP. I have not made up my mind on that but it is something we can discuss with members.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: A lot of really significant research is done in this space. The geological survey programmes have just short of €15 million in this Estimate. To give an idea of what it is used for, there are research programmes like the Tellus programme and by the end of 2025, about 92% of that airborne survey will be completed. Ground-based sample collection is complete, with samples now being...

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: We will revert specifically on that. I can get the Deputy that figure. I am sorry but I do not have it to hand.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: Yes, massive potential.

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: The illegal harvesting of peat is a planning matter and a matter for planning enforcement in the local authorities. I would reject their assertions that they do not have the resources to carry that out. What has occurred there, based on the EPA report, is nothing short of disgraceful and outrageous. It is a priority for the local authorities. We cannot micromanage it. They need to deal...

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: Not me, no. I am not the home Department there. If a body is involved in planning enforcement but decides to go after someone who might have built a bigger extension and use its resources there while someone else is illegally extracting peat at commercial level, I would think that is a big deal. It does not affect anyone cutting turf for his or her own use; we are not talking about any...

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: I thank the Chair. I meant to refer to that. The Taoiseach has specifically asked that a number of us, including myself, would meet, which we will. We have discussed convening a meeting between ourselves and officials from the Departments of agriculture and Housing, Local Government and Heritage. I have spoken to the Minister of State in the latter Department, Deputy O’Sullivan,...

Select Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 29 - Climate, Energy and the Environment (Revised)
(16 Jul 2025)

Darragh O'Brien: Okay.

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