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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will get the breakdown. We are asking the Department to get the information from each local authority. The local authorities have it, as I have seen myself, and we want it in here. The information from the Housing Agency was helpful but more is required. We will return to the housing issue. We had the first meeting on it last week. The housing assistance payment, HAP, and all the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: No, probably-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Maybe. We will deal with HAP to some extent next week as we will have representatives from the Departments of Housing, Planning and Local Government with Employment Affairs and Social Protection. No. 1724B is from NAMA and provides information requested by the committee regarding the geographic location of purchasers of €24 billion of disposals by NAMA. That follows on from a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is No. 1724B. It is only one page. NAMA had given us a breakdown of where the purchasers of NAMA property sold in Ireland were from and we asked for the breakdown of all secured assets worldwide. The letter indicates that the jurisdiction of the purchasers in respect of the €24 billion of secured assets, both Irish and foreign, is as follows: 33% of the purchasers were in Great...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, we will have to bring this into that debate as well. No. 1725B is in respect of information requested by the committee regarding structural assessments carried out in schools constructed by Western Building Systems. People will find this very interesting. It is very detailed information on those schools that have been examined, those that have been reopened and those on which work...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Now that it has been noted and published, it is out there for everyone to discuss as Deputies, parties and journalists. The committee can discuss it, but I advise people to make their comments. The committee has done its job by getting this amount of information. We can follow it through in further detail, but I expect that members will, based on this information, be raising the issue in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: When the Department appears before us to discuss its Vote in the new year, we will specifically-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: -----list this as a discussion item for which the Department should prepare.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Signing off on a construction contract that costs a great deal of money might be within another committee's remit, but it is certainly within ours. The sign-off on payment for work down is a financial matter, full stop.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We need to examine those matters in further detail.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will revert to this correspondence, as there is a great deal in it. I have only had a first read of it. Do members wish to revert to it next week?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: It will be.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: No. We will make a specific note for this issue to be dealt with in the briefing material that we receive before the meeting. The next correspondence is No. 1726B from the Department of Education and Skills regarding the transfer of properties from the religious congregations. This is connected with the correspondence from the HSE, which we did not take at the time. This gives a detailed...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will ensure that there is a nice photograph of the delegation in the report. We are moving on to correspondence category C. A letter has been received from Deputy Wallace with a further query regarding Project Nantes. We forwarded correspondence received from NAMA to Deputy Wallace and he has reverted with queries. We decided last week to request further details from NAMA and we will...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will discuss that separately. It is a fair point.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes, there is. There will be a debate on NAMA's expected terminal surplus. The members of this committee will be able to raise those points in the Chamber as well as at this committee. The Comptroller and Auditor General is seeking information. We have gone back for further information. The Comptroller and Auditor General has raised the whole issue of the section 172 declarations. It...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Buy back their own assets.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: The essence of the section 172 declaration is to ensure no person who is connected with the debtor is involved in buying back the same assets. The Comptroller and Auditor General has commented on that. We are back to that section 172-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Nov 2018)

Seán Fleming: Would it be possible for the Comptroller and Auditor General, if appropriate, to give us a briefing note on section 172, or should we ask the parliamentary legal adviser for a briefing note on it?

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