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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: Sorry, I just did not hear that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: When we invited the CCPC to appear before us, we probably did not include insurance but if the witnesses are happy to take the question, we would appreciate it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: It is timely to have the insurance issue raised today. Last year, the joint committee did a substantial body of work on the costs of doing business. The common denominator among the witnesses and in the submissions was insurance. Rates also arose but insurance was raised by everyone. I thank the witnesses for answering our questions. Ms Goggin indicated that her organisation monitors...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: The size of a company or business does not matter. People can approach the CCPC if they feel they have an issue, even if they do not have a large company.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: To be clear, the CCPC can offer guidance. The issue was raised with me. There is a perception that someone could contact the CCPC which could advocate on that person's behalf in a legal capacity. I want to make clear that the CCPC can only offer guidance. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: We heard earlier that the CCPC would like more powers. The CCPC is restricted from what I can see. Would the CCPC like more powers in that respect, especially with regard to small and medium-sized enterprises? A small company with between two and five employees would not have the same financial backing as a bigger entity.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: Is there a sizeable team in the office to back up the work?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: I thank Ms Goggin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: Quite a lot was raised there. Who wants to take the questions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: I thank Deputy Neville. We are getting a wide range of topics today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: Is the reasoning behind the decision the CCPC came to in the case to which Deputy Cahill referred in the public domain?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: Does Ms Goggin wish to continue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: The next speaker is Deputy Deering, who is Chairman of the Joint Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine. He is most welcome to the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: The Deputy makes a valid point about loss leaders and we all remember the carrots being on sale for 9 cent a bag.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: I do not agree with Mr. O'Leary, for example, with regard to carrots being sold as a loss leader for 9 cent a bag. I was on Facebook during the week and I saw a video of a company that is located just five miles from my own home. It showed how a field of carrots was being harvested. Obviously, the carrots had to be sold by the primary producer but the video showed how the carrots were...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: We will have to agree to disagree.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: I call Deputy Fitzmaurice.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: Can the Deputy let Ms Goggin answer the questions? He can come back in afterwards.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: It is not fair to say he is not listening. Mr. McHugh is saying that someone wanting to go in and make a point must be a member of a producer organisation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Competition Law and Trade Associations: Discussion (1 Oct 2019)

Mary Butler: Deputy Deering suggested having a sector regulator. Is that what is needed to try to address these issues?

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