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Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I am making the point that shotguns are of a particular kind. I have never heard of clay pigeon shooting with conventional——

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: So be it, but I have never heard of clay pigeon shooting with anything like a .22 rifle or——

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: It is my understanding — I may be wrong — that they do not use one projectile. If Deputy Ó Snodaigh is correct, one could fire that from a shotgun anyway.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I am told Deputy Ó Snodaigh will be disappointed to hear there is a question over the legality of using a single projectile as a shotgun.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I do not believe it will be adversely affected by the provision.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I will eat humble pie in the Seanad.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I move amendment No. 102: In page 42, lines 11 and 12, to delete "a person who is a doctor, psychiatrist, dentist, optician, chemist or nurse and" and substitute "doctor or psychiatrist".

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I am satisfied that the section as drafted effectively provides what Deputy Howlin seeks. Subsection (13) as it stands provides for the Minister to make regulations specifying minimum standards which minimum standards under subsection (14) shall be determined by reference to a number of factors. One of those factors is the level of competence of persons using the range.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: The design of the range must be decided by reference to the level of competence of persons using it. If people have a very low competence level, it must be designed in a way which is safe for them to use. The Minister can take into account the level of competence of persons using a range as one of the criteria for deciding whether to authorise the use of that range. This is a somewhat...

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: The minimum standard shall be determined in the case of a shooting range by reference to any or all of the following matters: security, membership, management, design, construction, maintenance, types of firearms and ammunition to be used and the level of competence of persons using the range. The minimum standards are to be determined by reference to a number of matters, including the level...

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I move amendment No. 105: In page 45, lines 13 and 14, to delete "this section" and substitute "subsection (18) of this section".

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: Deputy O'Keeffe has tabled four amendments to the section. With regard to increasing from 14 to 16 years the age at which a training certificate could be granted, I came under sustained pressure from the shooting sport lobby, particularly those involved in competitive shooting, to provide that it should be lawful for young shooting enthusiasts to be able to use but not own a firearm at the...

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: The intention is that a person over the age of 18 and upwards with a firearms certificate will be entitled to supervise a person who has a firearms training certificate.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: The 14 year old cannot possess a gun; he can only make use of it.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: No he cannot own it.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: He could carry it under supervision.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: Only the 18 year old with him can own a gun. We are beginning to live in a fantasy world if we think that does not happen on farms in rural Ireland when people go rabbit shooting or whatever. It does happen.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: Not to mention what Na Fianna get up to in the woods.

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I move amendment No. 80: In page 36, line 36, after "range" to insert the following: "or other place that stands authorised under section 2(5) of this Act".

Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed). (28 Jun 2006)

Michael McDowell: I move amendment No. 84: In page 37, line 2, to delete "Minister" and substitute "Commissioner".

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