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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: There are lessons to be learned. On 28 February we will deal with the Taoiseach's group of Votes and, because it is a group, we will have to work the mechanism there because it deals with the Vote for the Attorney General, the CSO, the Office of the Chief State Solicitor, the DPP and the President's Establishment. Are there separate Accounting Officers for those?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We might have to allocate an hour. We might not get them all done, but we will provisionally put them in at this stage. On 7 March, we are back to the Department of Justice and Equality for everything else outside the Irish Prison Service. There are other items on the work programme that we will set dates on. We said we would come back to public-private partnerships and the Dormant...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: Yes. What is requested at this stage? I was not quite sure. I said to the person-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will discuss it but there is definitely a broader issue with nursing home charges, of which that is one of the charges. We will discuss it in that context when we have the HSE in but in the meantime, I have given a commitment that I would meet the people who wrote those directly in the new year in any event. We will circulate the time of that meeting. It will not be a Committee of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We have no date for that yet. It is on the bottom of the chart as medical negligence and State Claims Agency correspondence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will phrase it as the State Claims Agency, including medical negligence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: Is this outside sections 38 and 39?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: What kind of organisation?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: Will the Deputy submit a note in order that we can then write to the HSE on it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We probably all have examples of that but if the Deputy gives us a specific note, we will get a response and we will have movement on issue before the HSE comes before us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: Did we raise it the last day?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: That issue was raised at the meeting and we will ask the secretariat to look over that aspect of the transcript.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the agency in the meantime based on what we discussed at the meeting because I am looking at the letter we had here this morning, No. 1768B, and the heading is matters related to medical negligence, open disclosure, and CervicalCheck and thalidomide-related litigation. I might not be doing the State Claims Agency a favour but I am glancing through that correspondence and I...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: In the correspondence I just referred to, the thalidomide issue is dealt with in paragraph 4 on page 3. The final sentence states:Subsequently the Chief State Solicitor's Office, due to pressure on resources in its office, came off record in the Thalidomide matters and was replaced by Hayes, Solicitors, a firm with an established track-record in the Defence of medicinal product liability...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the State Claims Agency on that basis and to explore mediation further.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: No, we cannot trespass on how it defends its case.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: We raised the issue the day the State Claims Agency was here. We have had two items of correspondence from it in the meantime, I am asking the secretariat to check the two items of correspondence and if it has not answered us on the issues raised around thalidomide, we will go back and ask. It will be in before us again.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: It is not happening even though it is in place in theory.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: I will make a general point related to how long things take. Regarding the summit on the catastrophic infants' cases, the agency in its correspondence states, "The Agency only ever becomes involved when the letter of claim is received." By that time, the solicitor has done all the research and all the work and then submits his or her claim. The agency further states, "This has the...

Public Accounts Committee: Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report 98: Provision of School Transport (13 Dec 2018)

Seán Fleming: The committee will examine the Comptroller and Auditor General Special Report 98 on the provision of school transport. We are joined from the Department of Education and Skills by Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General, Mr. Ned Costello and Mr. Richard Dolan. They are accompanied by representatives of Bus Éireann: Mr. Stephen Kent, CEO, Mr. Tom Delaney and Ms Miriam Flynn....

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