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Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: The first point to make is that I respect the view of the President. It is very important that he should have the opportunity to make his own observations. I will not comment on those observations specifically. In general, it is a matter for the boards of management of schools to devise their homework policy. From my own experience, in the vast majority of schools, homework begins in the...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: I acknowledge the excellent work being done by the Chairman and the committee. He will be aware that the Department recently launched the Cineáltas plan - "cineáltas" meaning "kindness" - which is the anti-bullying framework for schools. It recognises that every child and young person has a right to feel safe and valued within his or her school environment. There must be zero...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: I want to be clear in what I say. There is an obligation on any organisation that receives State funding to make itself available, without any aspersions being cast, for any type of review that might be necessary so that we are clear on governance structures. Officials from the Department engaged on an ongoing basis with the NPCPP. It was offered every opportunity to engage in this review...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: It was a consequence of discussion and engagement between me and officials in the Department.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: That is not correct.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: I have met with all the partners in education at various points throughout the past couple of years, including the NPCPP, particularly as part of its work with the advisory committee.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: I do not have a list available of the times I met with anybody, either individually or collectively. I can revert to the committee in that respect. However, I have certainly engaged and met with the president on a number of occasions, most especially with the advisory committee because that is the correct engagement mechanism. In relation to this issue, specifically, it would not have been...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: No, I did not say it was published.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: No.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: Again, I want to be very clear. I am surprised the Chair would not share the view that it is important for any organisation receiving any element of State funding to make itself available to co-operate with a review in terms of governance. In this case, it had been offered an opportunity to do that over six to seven months but it refused point blank to engage to do so. This meant there was...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: I want to acknowledge that the parent voice is hugely important. I have seen the benefit of it throughout the past number of years. There is no question whatsoever in relation to that. I also want to make the point that parents with children in primary school often also have children in post-primary school. However, that is neither here not there. The Chair suggested that all of the...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: I am telling the Chair that the council was requested to co-operate with a governance review.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: I am replying to the point the Chair made in saying that all issues were addressed. I am not aware that all issues have been addressed. The key issue was the necessity to co-operate with an important governance review. That was not done even though latitude of six to seven months was allowed. It is not possible to provide funding to organisations that do not co-operate with appropriate...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: The review was independent.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: No, the review was independent and it was important that it remain independent of me, as Minister.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: There was six to seven months of repeated engagement with the organisation and requests to engage and co-operate with governance obligations. Refusing to do so over six to seven months speaks for itself.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: That is fair enough. We will agree to disagree.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: If the governance issues had been overcome, the council would have co-operated with the review.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: I want to be very clear. I am not clear as to the inference the Chair is making about the officials within my Department. He might clarify what exactly he is saying.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 26 - Education (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Norma Foley: To be clear, I have absolute confidence in the officials of my Department. They have-----

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