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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I accept that but why are we looking at a COM which has a 55% target? As a Member of the Dáil I have voted in legislation that provides for 51%. We have a competency over that area. So if we take this COM at this rate we lose control, we would be signing up to a 55% target, is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: The climate action Bill which involved a huge amount of work in all Houses and committees sets the carbon budgets, which I presume are tied in with climate action plans, am I correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: There are major discussions on that at the moment, and the implications for various sectors. We are now discussing a COM which is for the next five years, while the Government has yet to finalise the carbon budget. I am very uncomfortable signing up for COMs ahead of it. Without in any way appearing to interfere or determine rates - although you say they are generally the same - 51% and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: When we hear people talking about the coming climate action plan, that is the five-year budget.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Farmers want to know what is going to happen. On the ground, the people we represent are actively watching what will be in those climate action plans.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: At this time is the percentage of that reduction transport will have to fulfil determined in law?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Therefore we are discussing something here in terms of transport about which the actual practical import for the people who we represent is yet to be determined, based on national legislation that we put through with no detail on what this is going to do. Personally speaking I would be very uncomfortable with saying that these do not breach at this moment in time the Irish subsidiarity...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: The climate budget is an implementation of the plan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: When would the Department anticipate they will be announced?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Why did we go with 51%?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Do we have the control to determine the 51% target by 2030? We could have set it lower if we had wished.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will have a private meeting on it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Before we conclude I thank the witnesses for coming in at very short notice. Obviously, we as public representatives have a specific role in the subsidiarity. So much has happened on climate change at a national level over the recent past. We have had the climate change Bill and the climate action plan, and climate budgets will be coming out in the next week. Yet there is very little...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: There are other aspects; that was one of them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: As Mr. Ó Ciaruáin will appreciate, we have a differ role. Deputy Shanahan wishes to contribute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I do not know if Deputy Shanahan will regard this as good or bad news but as he is deputising for Deputy Lowry, he steps into the Deputy's role. He is, therefore, considered a full member of the committee and is more than welcome to take part in our private meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: These are matters we will consider in private.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does the text of each of the COMs, the legislative proposals, provide a detailed analysis of how the proposal will impact on individual countries?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Are they available?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Scrutiny of EU Legislative Proposals (21 Oct 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is the kernel for the committee because that is our role. We are national rather than European representatives. Did Mr. Gallagher catch the question?

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