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- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Just so that Mr. Fraser does not get confused, an existing civil servant is on a pension provided by the Exchequer and an outside candidate does not necessarily acquire the same level of pension. Am I correct on this?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: There could be hundreds of thousands of euro in the difference between what Mr. Watt would achieve over an external candidate. Is this correct?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Mr. Fraser was advising on this basis. This is public money. We are here to ascertain how much. The increase is €81,000 per annum but it equates to hundreds of thousands in pensionable benefits over and above an external candidate because he is an existing civil servant. If we look at the 40 years' service rule, it turns into hundreds of thousands of euro. Is this correct?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: I am coming back in because I do not want to take up everyone's time. The question I asked is whether a monetary differential was calculated on the basis of providing an internal or external candidate.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Mr. Fraser, will you listen to the question, please, to avoid taking up everybody else's time? Was there a calculation done actuarially to establish whether we spent hundreds of thousands of euro of taxpayers' money in the long run by appointing an internal candidate? Did Mr. Fraser know when he was giving advice what the cost would be of providing Mr. Watt with the job over an external...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: It is "Yes" or "No". Did Mr. Fraser know how much the difference was?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Mr. Fraser-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: -----did you know monetarily what the cost to the Exchequer would be of appointing an internal versus an external candidate? Did you know how much it would cost?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Okay. I will ask it a different way. What was the difference in monetary terms? How much would we have saved by appointing an external candidate? Perhaps it would have cost us more. What was the difference? How much?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: I did not ask you that.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: You are only waffling now and I have to stop you because other members of the committee-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Just one final question.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Does Mr. Fraser know monetarily the cost difference between providing an external candidate and an internal candidate such as Mr. Watt? Did Mr. Fraser know?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: It has not been answered, with respect. I have not heard any figure mentioned.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: In that case, we have to assume there was no actuarial-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: I thank the Chair.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: I will be very brief. I thank Mr. Fraser for coming in today. My questions are also brief. Is it correct that no actuarial analysis was done of whether the appointment concerned was going to cost us much more if we appointed an internal candidate from the Civil Service?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Would it not make sense to do that, if there were two candidates, one internal and one external, of the same calibre? Would it not make more sense to do that, given that may be a very distinguishing factor? I refer to how the public's money is spent.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: Does Mr. Fraser take my point?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Remuneration of Senior Civil Servants: Discussion (2 Jun 2021)
Verona Murphy: I appreciate that but does Mr. Fraser take my point? He has said that the process has never been done this way but should this aspect be a consideration?