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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Did Mr. Kelly make a complaint to whoever was in the job at the time that he was being obstructed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I have no reason to question Mr. Kelly's professional competence but he should not have to pause on that question. If he was aware that a report had been prepared, he was the auditor and the buck stops with him. He had an obligation to pursue that matter through his line manager and to ensure that he got whatever figures he needed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I regard that as a failing on his part as auditor. Mr. Kelly was asking questions in 2008 and 2009 but was obstructed. Did he stop asking questions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Did he stop asking questions through 2010, 2011, etc?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Of whom was Mr. Kelly asking questions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Why was it deleted?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Kelly needs to be succinct.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: That is extraordinary. It is an extraordinarily muddled, long-winded, awkward, crazy account of how one would go about one's business, as an organisation or as an auditor. That is the dog ate my homework type of excuse. The witness is seeking information, and he is not seeking it without due cause-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----not least because it was his job to do it. He is not getting it and he is all around the houses for a period of years. Of course, he could not verify what was going on in the college because he does not have the basis to do it. There are memoranda and communications flying left, right and centre. What strikes me is that while all these little diversionary skirmishes are taking place,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Who was the Commissioner at the time? Was it Mr. Murphy?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Mr. Kelly got an assurance from the then Commissioner-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: He said, "Relax, Niall, everything is fine. These matters are being attended to."

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was that not very misleading of the then Commissioner?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am not inviting Mr. Kelly to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----go into any thought processes. However, Mr. Kelly got an assurance-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: -----at the time which was not worth the paper it was written on or the breath with which it was expressed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I thank Ms O'Sullivan for the clarification of the identity. The net point remains the same. When did Mr. Barrett come on the scene? Was it 2014?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: I do not wish to be accused of oppressive questioning.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

Mary Lou McDonald: Having listened to all of this, it strikes me that it was only when Mr. Barrett came in from the real world, as it were, that we start to see things changing. It appears to me from reviewing it, and we cannot be conclusive because there is more work to be done, that one only sees the step change at that point.