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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Has the commission discussed that with the Veterinary Council of Ireland?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: So the CCPC's solution is that a body, with which it has not discussed it, takes on additional roles?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: I come from a medium-sized town. It has about seven pharmacies, all very good businesses. I also represent a number of villages and smaller towns that have no pharmacies. What would the CCPC do if I were to report a village that did not have a pharmacy to it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Herein lies the problem, because Mr. McHugh mentioned pharmacies a number of times with regard to the approach we should take to veterinary practices. If an area that is currently serviced by a veterinary practice is not serviced by such a practice in the future, it means that farms will be essentially inoperable. They will not be able to operate as they do currently. Mr. McHugh has...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Okay. Take a scenario in which an area is currently being serviced by a couple of vets and a new entity driven by profit moves into the area. The vets who are operating are working for a non-vet whose objective is profit-making and they undercut the existing vets in the areas that are most profitable, usually small animal care, and increase charges for large animal care to the extent the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Mr. McHugh has missed my point entirely. Maybe it was my articulation of it. We have looked at the California Department of Consumer Affairs, which has adjudicated on this scenario, which has become widespread there. We have seen what happened in Britain, which apparently has not formed any part of the commission's deliberation. There is a need to analyse how vets currently operate and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: I thank the witnesses for attending and for their engagement on this issue. I will start where Ms Muldoon finished and ask her to explain matters to me as someone who does not fully understand how this works. She stated that the council ensured "the highest standards of veterinary medicine in the regulation and management of the professions." Is it the case that, as Deputy Cahill said, it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: I know all of that, but I am trying to get to the actual regulation. I am sure such cases are few and far between, but what about instances of alleged misconduct or breaches of the regulations or legislation? The council would investigate the individual vet in such an instance.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: As with any business, there is the potential for a systems failure, particularly when dealing with antibiotics. The entity would be at fault as opposed to the vet. I am seeking clarification of Deputy Cahill's point. When the beneficial owner of the entity is not a vet, what can the Veterinary Council do?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: I am not asking about ownership, but about responsibility. If the responsibility is a corporate one, to use that term, because there has been a systems failure within the business, the owner would be ultimately responsibility in most other sectors. If four or five vets were operating in an entity but the beneficial owner who was responsible was not a vet, what recourse would the council have?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: They were commissioned by the Veterinary Council.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Why were they sought? Was the council requested to do so or did it just decide to check the matter 13 years after implementing its interpretation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: I know what the advice said. I am trying to find out why the council sought the advices. Ms Muldoon mentioned that there had been a number of inquiries. Who made the inquiries?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: That clarifies nothing as far as I am concerned. Were those sub-committees of the Veterinary Council?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Members of a sub-committee of the Veterinary Council requested that the council seek legal-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Let me reverse a little. Who precisely asked for this issue to be investigated or for legal advice to be sought?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Were any of those inquiries from a multinational corporation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Okay. We will take our own-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Did Ms Muldoon say that the council received four pieces of legal advice?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Practice (Amendment) Bill 2021: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Oct 2021)

Matt Carthy: Were they all on the same issue?