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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: Let us get clarification.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: Let us hope so.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: I know.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: We will see where this goes. We will seek clarification. If the price of glass has gone up, and there is high inflation on glass, which I think there is, that would certainly make it a lot more expensive than what it costs because there is a lot of glass.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: Will that be within three months?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: We could get the board in. I will not say what we can do, based on the previous discussion. No. 1643B is from Mr. Graham Doyle, Secretary General, Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage. It is dated 22 December 2022 - we had them all very busy in the week before Christmas - and provides information requested by the committee regarding reviewing planning permissions granted by...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is a chicken and egg situation because the process of putting the masts in place could pass out the legal system. In other words, if matters wind up in the courts and during that time planning permission is granted for a large number of these masts in places that are being disputed, the masts could be put in place. That is my understanding of the position.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: Given that we could be caught in the situation we are speaking about, one would at least expect the pause button to be pressed. I think that is what the Deputy is referring to.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is the Deputy suggesting we would write back to An Bord Pleanála and ask-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: I think that would be wise-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----in view of the fact that until matters regarding the legal process have been concluded to some extent, there would be a pause. The next category of correspondence is correspondence from and related to private individuals and any other correspondence. The following items have been held over from previous meetings and we will take them together. The first is No. 1574C from Deputy...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: There is big money being-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is being funded directly by the HSE. The HSE provides funding for ancillary staff and buildings. To be honest, it has been a bit of eye-opener to see how it operates. There is a systemic problem because a number of different models are being used and are being provided by a whole range of providers. The HSE on this occasion was held over a barrel in trying to respond to this and put...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: Many GPs did not come out well from this with the funding provision in Laois, Offaly and the other midlands counties. Deputy Burke is correct that GPs are under significant pressure, but they did not benefit in any way from this. The bottom line is that significant funding is going into the provision of our services. The problem is, as the Deputy outlined, that the services are patchy or...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: I would add to that what staff the HSE is providing and what buildings it is providing. The problem is that while the HSE seems to be providing a lot, the key part of it is the GP provision, which is in many cases administered by a private company. If the private company decides to cease trading, for want of a better term, at a certain date, it will cease trading. That is what happened,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: There is a mathematical issue. We all know we have slightly more than half the number of GPs we need in the State. It should be one per every 1,100 people the population. I looked at the figures for our region which show it is at more than 2,000. That is the basis of the problem.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: We have spoken about the finance that is going to the HSE and about the services at the other end. We have looked at mental health. Primary care is the most important of it and there seems to be a complete breakdown between the budget that is going in and what is happening at the far end in services. It is in that space-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: We will look for that prior to the meeting. Are we agreed that we will add that to the meeting? Agreed. I want to flag to members that the President of the European Parliament, Ms Roberta Metsola, will address a joint sitting of the Dáil and Seanad on 2 February from 2 p.m. until approximately 3.45 p.m. or 4 p.m. Previously, when Ursula von der Leyen addressed the sitting of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: It will be on 2 February. We should bear in mind that we will not have a small session in the morning. The HSE and the Department of Health will be before the committee. It will be a big morning and it will probably run over. I will certainly not be doing anything to cut it off directly at 12:30 p.m. We should bear that in mind. If the President of the European Parliament will be here...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2023)

Brian Stanley: Are members happy enough with that?

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