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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: No apologies have been received. On behalf of the committee, I welcome the chairperson designate of Transport Infrastructure Ireland, TII, Mr. Gareth Llewellyn, to the meeting. You are most welcome, Mr. Llewellyn. Thank you for agreeing to attend at such short notice. It is good that you are coming before us so early after your appointment. I will read a note on privilege. Witnesses...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Llewellyn, the sound is not great. I understand you are using headphones. The technical staff are telling us that the sound quality may be better if you just use the microphone as distinct from the headphones.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will suspend briefly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank Mr. Llewellyn and invite him to continue his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank Mr. Llewellyn. We will now move to members. Our first member is Senator Horkan in the Fianna Fáil slot. I call Senator Horkan, who has seven minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have been very liberal with the time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Senator Horkan may make one final comment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does that conclude Deputy Carey's questioning?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Llewellyn has a very impressive CV. I think he will bring added value. He spoke about himself and stated that the three key components are aligning with sustainable transport, the challenge and added value. How familiar is Mr. Llewellyn with Ireland and with our road, rail and bus networks? Has he had an opportunity to come to Ireland over the years?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: The two things I would ask Mr. Llewellyn to do are as follows. I am a Deputy for Limerick city and my colleagues have already made reference to the N20-M20 project. Mr. Llewellyn is probably aware there are no motorways or dual carriageways between Cork and Limerick as there are between Cork and Dublin, Limerick and Dublin, Limerick and Galway and Galway and Dublin. Limerick and Cork are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Llewellyn is probably aware that, along that route, there is need for a motorway and bypasses of towns like Charleville and Buttevant in particular, which are major bottlenecks. However, it is a good economic corridor. We are trying to get an Atlantic corridor running from Cork to Limerick to Galway and beyond as a counter-pole to Dublin. Mr. Llewellyn made an interesting point on...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Will we get to a point where we have significant decarbonisation of the materials going into the construction of roads?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Llewellyn made reference earlier to the fact that, around cities and big urban areas, additional motorways are not the answer to demand. Will he expand on that? What does he think is the solution to dealing with traffic?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Where does Mr. Llewellyn sit on the idea of linking cities by way of motorways? What is his view on that? Is it important in achieving synergies and tying cities together? What is his position from his own experience?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: What does Mr. Llewellyn see as the future of transport?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Chairperson Designate (1 Dec 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: In saying that, is Mr. Llewellyn referring to greenways alongside roads and motorways? There would obviously still be buses on major routes. Where does he see that enhancement coming?

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