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Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Fifth Stage (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: Under Standing Order 133 I propose a verbal amendment to page 6, line 5, to change the letters "ne" to "ly". I call on one of my colleagues to second the amendment.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Fifth Stage (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: I am relying on Standing Order 133(2) which deals with Fifth Stage. The Standing Order states: "No amendment, not being merely verbal, shall be made to any Bill on the Fifth Stage, but verbal amendments, may be made without notice." Traditionally, verbal amendments in parliaments across the world refer to a number of words. Here I wish to change two letters of the alphabet. On page 6,...

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Fifth Stage (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: I seek clarification. The Standing Order specifically states that I may give a verbal amendment at Fifth Stage without notice. I have given that and my verbal amendment relates to just two letters of the alphabet.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Fifth Stage (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: We will have to take legal advice on this. The Standing Order is very clear.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Fifth Stage (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: On a point of order, it is very clear that the Standing Order allows me to make a verbal amendment. This is an abuse of the privilege of Senators which are clearly set out the Standing Order.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Fifth Stage (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: The Clerk, with due respect, has given incorrect advice in this case.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Fifth Stage (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: Verbal amendments can be made without notice and I demand that my verbal amendment be taken at this stage. I demand that you comply with the expressed terms of the Standing Order and put the amendment to the House.

Seanad: Appropriation Bill 2012 [Certified Money Bill]: All Stages (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: On a point of order, I wish to indicate, for the record, that Fianna Fáil Senators were present in the Chamber for the walk through vote but that they chose not to take part.

Seanad: Appropriation Bill 2012 [Certified Money Bill]: All Stages (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: I wish to point out that the Fianna Fáil Members were present in the Chamber but chose not to vote.

Seanad: Appropriation Bill 2012 [Certified Money Bill]: All Stages (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: It is very important to put on the record that Fianna Fáil Senators were present but chose not to vote.

Seanad: Message from Dáil (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: That is big of it.

Seanad: Appropriation Bill 2012 [Certified Money Bill]: All Stages (20 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: On a point of order, the Appropriation Bill goes through this House on the nod every year. While I said yesterday in this House that the Seanad cannot write cheques, this is effectively a cheque for ¤50 billion. It is the one measure we cannot vote against because if we did all public services would have to close. This is crucial legislation, debate on which ceased almost 20 years ago....

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) Bill 2012: Second Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: The Minister of State did not rebut the point. Average property sale prices in Meath East in 2012, according to propertypriceregister.ie puts Dunboyne in the top 13% nationwide. The same applies to Ratoath, Ashbourne and Stamullen, which are in the top 20% nationally. I have used the same figures as the Government from the residential property price register, the Thornhill report and the...

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) Bill 2012: Second Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: Site value tax.

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) Bill 2012: Second Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: Ba mháith liom a roinnt mo chuid ama leis an Seanadóir Brian Ó Domhnaill.

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) Bill 2012: Second Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: The Minister made the point, and then attempted to rebut it, that the local property-----

Seanad: Finance (Local Property Tax) Bill 2012: Second Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: The Minister stated that the local property tax has been referred to as being anti-Dublin and anti-urban.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: That was an outrageous filibuster by the Minister.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: We are on section five. We would be happy if the Minister concluded now and allowed us vote on it. She is filibustering.

Seanad: Social Welfare Bill 2012: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2012)

Thomas Byrne: We cut the wealthiest also.

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