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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Forgive us for the questions we ask, but people do not know one company from another. Mr. Evans mentioned that BT manages the 999 emergency service.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Could he tell the public, in a sentence, what that is because the public might not know BT does that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: BT has that contract having won it by pubic tender.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: The public will be happy to hear that. The 999 service needs to be tightly managed, regulated and controlled.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I only ask because, even though the committee members may have heard that before, a lot of people might not understand that BT does that on behalf of the State.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: In fairness, it is not the private sector's fault that the Government did not re-tender.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Perfect.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: If we ask a question that is obvious to Mr. O'Dwyer, so be it, but the public might not be as well up on this as he is. Is BT regulated by ComReg?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: No, here.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Are all the providers regulated by ComReg?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: My question is whether the metropolitan area networks, MANs, system is regulated by ComReg. This is where I am coming from.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is what I picked up. I find it unusual that this report was commissioned by the Department. I wondered why the Department was involved, as surely we have a regulator that deals with all this. It should not still be in the hands of the Department. There is no regulator, effectively, in respect of the MANs. As we speak, there is a proposal that the regulator would examine aspects,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have one last question so I understand what it being said here before Deputy MacSharry comes in. At the time of that contract being given for a managed services entity with the Department and at the time that contract was signed, the organisation that got the contract would not have been involved in the retail trade. Maybe on day one it was in compliance with the state aid rules....

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will take this up with the Department. BT's concern would be that at the point of extending the contract, which was quite recently, certainly it did not meet the state aid rules at that point because it was an operator of the service and was doing the managed services entity process at the same time. Mr. Evans and Mr. O'Dwyer have a concern about that now.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is something we will have to take up with the Department when we have it back in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am sure the Deputy would agree that we now write directly to the Department on foot of what we have heard to get a copy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy has highlighted an issue there. We will write to the Department for clarification on foot of this conversation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is a risk.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Reference was made to that report when representatives of the Department appeared before the committee. We will have it circulated, if that has not already been done.

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