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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: We have done a significant amount of work through the LEEF committee. We met all actors to get together our plan for collective bargaining. Any country below 80% collective bargaining has to provide an action plan by the end of 2025, I think. We will meet that deadline. We are working on that plan. There are two issues relating to the LEEF high-level implementation group which require a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: There are three sectoral orders which have been increased over the past number of weeks, representing different sectors. There is the minimum wage, as I said. From 2015, there has been a 42% increase in the minimum wage to ensure there is progression for workers' rights. We have seen the introduction of sick pay on a statutory level. We banned zero-hour contracts. We brought in tips...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: We should work together collectively. That is not a bad thing. I am outlining-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: I just want to push back in terms of the improvements that are made. I can demonstrate six or seven key changes over the last six years that support workers' conditions and workers' rights. We have the infrastructure working ahead, as I mentioned, through LEEF.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: Obviously, we are committed to increasing the living wage. That is the trajectory. It has that particular sectoral order.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: First of all-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: It is at the minimum wage level.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: To be fair, I have outlined what we are doing in terms of improving collective bargaining through the committees that we are working on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: I said to improve it. The Senator is not-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: We do have collective bargaining.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: I have outlined it exactly. I was very clear in the detail on exactly what the Government is doing on the two issues that require legislative change and with regard to the action plan, which we are going to need a timeline for. Obviously, if a person is not covered by a sectoral order, he or she is dependent on the minimum wage. We are trying to get to a living wage of 60% of the median...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: The action plan will support collective bargaining. I cannot make a statement here about something that requires legislative change when I do not have in my hand the advice from the Attorney General on how we go about doing that. We set about----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: We are not necessarily. It depends how one defines collective bargaining. In theory, one could say the Low Pay Commission is a form of collective bargaining with all minimum wage workers trying to work towards it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: We have three different sectoral orders that are being used to try to improve the conditions of workers, be it in the cleaning sector, security or childcare. All have seen improvements over the last number of weeks. I have told the Senator quite clearly that we have set a process in place to respond to the directive from Europe through LEEF. We are going to meet the target in terms of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: I thank Minister Bruton for his questions. On the last point, absolutely-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: I beg your pardon, Deputy Bruton. I am so used to the title. I was told yesterday that there have been 16 Ministers with responsibility for enterprise over the past 40 years. Deputy Bruton was almost a permanent fixture in the Department. He was there on a number of occasions, even, I am informed, when an interim Government was in place. With regard to the final point on healthcare,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: Absolutely. I will be very happy to work with the Deputy on that. Wavin is a company of long standing. When uncertainty like this creeps in, it is of great concern to workers and families especially. With regard to what we can do, we will engage with her directly and work with the management. I have not been briefed on the matter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: Yes, it has been signed and has been in effect since 1 July. Obviously, the EROs are ahead of the minimum wage and living wage. The sectoral interventions are for the sector. Security guards have got their agreement over the line but I understand there are some legal concerns connected to it. Since I am not fully aware of the circumstances, could I provide a brief on the details to the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: I can obtain the rationale for the Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Peter Burke: I am hopeful that it will. We are hoping to get it through the Oireachtas in the autumn session. Obviously that is intention of the Department. We are supportive of it and we have received our pre-legislative scrutiny from the committee. We are continuing at pace and we support it. I am hoping to get it into the Oireachtas schedule in the autumn.

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