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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We are resuming our consideration of the remainder of Vote 34 with the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government. We are also considering the Local Government Fund and Chapter 4 of the Comptroller and Auditor General's 2017 report, which deals with central government funding of local authorities. I ask Mr. McCarthy to introduce any new witnesses who have joined him for this...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I will start for the moment. Our colleagues will be coming in as the vote in the Dáil concludes. I want to ask a couple of questions about the Local Government Fund. A few years ago, almost €2 billion was provided through the fund. There was €1 billion in motor tax receipts. We used to have the Exchequer contribution and the local property tax, LPT, as well. That...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Exchequer contribution comes directly from the Department's Vote.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Where does it go from there?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay. We all understand that the line of income is now very limited compared with what it used to be a few years ago. Does the famous plastic bag levy go in there?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: There is a Local Government Fund and an environment fund. Mr. McCarthy might help us with this.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: What is the throughput in that fund? Is Mr. McCarthy is the Accounting Officer for it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is there not a valid point to be made from an administrative point of view in favour of combining the two accounts? The money is coming in from a specific source and going out.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: It has moved.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: It has now moved to another Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. McCarthy is not the Accounting Officer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am raising this point because the throughput is a fraction of what it used to be. I understood the need for this account a couple of years ago. Maybe there is still a need for it, but I suggest it is a lesser need. Deputy Cassells is the first speaker in this afternoon's session.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: A vote has been called in the Dáil.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: We are resuming our consideration of Vote 34 with the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: The other Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: Either from the CCMA or the Department. Who would provide the note?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Department of Rural and Community Development.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: The issue does not fall under this Department's role.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Seán Fleming: However, the CCMA is involved in it.

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