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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: Not best practice - has it been done for this board?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: Does Mr. Fitzpatrick know?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: I do not mind that. I just want to know-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: There are internal reviews and then there is an external review. Is that right? When was the last one carried out?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: There is a reference in CHI's financial statements of 2023 to a report being carried out.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: That is good. There is an external review. Will that be published?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: Who does CHI get to do that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: Does CHI tender for that? How was that entity appointed?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: An external entity has been appointed to review CHI in terms of governance and all that goes with that. Where is this review at the moment?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: Has Mr. Fitzpatrick read it?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Fitzpatrick would not know if it was significant or not.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: There is nobody here from the board to tell us if that was or was not significant.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: There is a reference in CHI's financial statements to a review being carried out. All I want to find out is whether that was an external one. Can the witnesses say "Yes" or "No" to that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: -----are included.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General for that. If we get a letter to the Cathaoirleach clarifying how many external and internal reports have been carried out in recent years, it would be very helpful. Regarding cases settled, some of which were with the Workplace Relations Commission, WRC, CHI has given us figures in its financial report for WRC cases. I think the number is...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: There were 38.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: May we have a breakdown? There is no breakdown of them.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: No, there are 38 cases and six went to the WRC. We have a figure for that, and then for the others we do not have any breakdown of the nature of the cases or what they were settled for, and CHI worked with the State Claims Agency. Would it be possible to get details on that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: It is the nature of the claims.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board and Children's Health Ireland: Discussion (22 May 2025)

Catherine Connolly: What Mr. Fitzpatrick is telling me now would be helpful for us. Lots of us are learning about this all the time, and that is only one tiny aspect. I return to the paediatric board and move to the children's hospital. When does it envisage winding up? It was a special purpose vehicle set up for a specific purpose, to build ,design and get a hospital.

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