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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The purpose of today's meeting is to discuss the ongoing all-island strategic rail review with a view to making a submission on behalf of the committee to the Department. On behalf of the committee I welcome the representative of the Western Rail Trail, Mr. John Mulligan; from West on Track, Mr. Colmán Ó Raghallaigh - I hope I pronounced his name correctly - and Mr. Peter Feeney,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank Mr. Mulligan and call Mr. Ó Raghallaigh.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank Mr. Ó Raghallaigh. I now call Mr. Logue to give his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will move to questions from members. For the information of non-members, the collective decision of the committee is that order for questioning is as follows: members, non-members who are substituting for current members, and Oireachtas Members who are not members of the committee. I will allow an opportunity first to the committee members who are present and will then go to those who are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: As Chair, I made it clear I wanted utter inclusion and did a lot of work to try to ensure it. I strongly suggest we write to the group the Deputy has mentioned and request written submissions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We are only human. That can happen.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I now call Senator Horkan to speak please and he has seven minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: This would be the area of the former Taoiseach, Charlie Haughey.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is opportune that Mr. Stacpoole has joined us. He was delayed. Mr. Stacpoole, do you wish to add to Mr. Logue's comments?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Thank you for your patience, Senator Horkan. I call Deputy Lowry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the difference between the EY report and the Bradley report? That is the key.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am conscious of time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I now call Deputy Conway-Walsh, who is substituting for Deputy Ó Murchú.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The Deputy will not be hung, drawn and quartered for that. There is an occasion for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have held back but I have a few questions to put to all parties. Does Mr. Lightfoot wish to make a comment on this before I do so?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is called binary thinking. The silo mentality is something I hate. Rail, road, greenways and cycle lines all have a role to play.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The problem is that our narrative is becoming one of it being either "A" or "B". It is not; it is an integrated model. I have a question for West on Track. Regarding the report by Dr. John Bradley in response to the Ernst & Young report, my understanding is that Dr. Bradley used the net present value model to assess the worth of building the railway. Is that correct? Over how...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: All-Island Strategic Rail Review: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: When Mr. Logue and Mr. Stacpoole are looking at rail projects and they are assessed by the State, what is the typical period of time looked at in terms of a return?

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