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Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator is talking about herself now.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Of course you do.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I am happy that we are in populist hour in the House today. I thank the 18 Senators who made contributions.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: It is not disingenuous, it is the complete truth.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I will. Nine Senators referred to the children’s hospital. Before coming to that matter, I wish first, on her birthday, to pay tribute to Countess Markievicz and thank her for her courageous leadership.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Many others have repented as well but, to be fair, they did not do what she did.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: In terms of the national children's hospital, we are all disappointed and find the overrun unacceptable. The point that perhaps my learned colleague and friend does not agree with it is that we have entered into the realm of hysteria and populism.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I do not refer to the Senator at all.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Methinks the Senator protests too much.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Let us not enter into the realm of-----

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I have a good mind to say that I accept the Order of Business and to sit down-----

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: -----but I want to make a few things quite clear. Irrespective of one's views on PwC, it has been asked to do a piece of work on which it will report back to Government, and the Senator might be cynical, throw her eyes to Heaven and do all that; that is fine. The comments by some people inside and outside this House lend themselves to scaremongering and hysteria. We had that in the House...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: That is a fact. The Senator is a public representative and, to be fair to him, he is a man of integrity.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: He knows quite well-----

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Judicial review, yes. That is what I meant to say. Senator Wilson knows quite well that the court is the only place one can go.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I hear people speak about leaking of information. The Joint Committee on Health, the Committee of Public Accounts, the finance committee today, the Dáil and this House have spent a countless number of hours discussing the national children's hospital. There has been no leaking or drip feeding of information.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Senator Murnane O'Connor knows everything.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: She does not want to hear anything other than her own point of view, and that is fine. If I said black, she would say white. That is fine.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senators can accuse me of all things again if they want to.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (5 Feb 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I understand that. To be fair to the Cathaoirleach and to all of us in this House, we are rightly disappointed and find the overrun unacceptable but when I hear members of the Opposition talking about prudence in financial management I have to cast my mind back to personnel, payroll and related systems, PPARS, the sale of Telecom, which delayed the broadband process, and the area of the...

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