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Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: I will get the Deputy a reason and a breakdown for that now. As regards the overall heading, there was a change in that. It is up €5 million overall because we have the control of dogs in now. I do not have to hand right now-----

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: Yes, under A3.

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: B4 is ANCs, is it not?

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: I can answer that for the Deputy now. Sorry, I did not realise she was talking about B14 as well. B3, the agri-environment scheme, covers TAMS and organics and the environmental elements of them. That was reduced. As regards the European recovery instrument, EURI, this is the last year we are able to claim the allocation, in 2025. For TAMS that was down €13.3 million and for...

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: I certainly hope not-----

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: -----but I have to manage out my budget. There is a range of different areas here where I have had to manage my budget and where some things are up and some things are down. On this one-----

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: The Deputy is right: last year's budget did not allocate enough money-----

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: I was answering questions here earlier about the delays and the challenges farmers had faced in terms of the historical initial issues for some of the applicants in 2023 and 2024. As I said, when I came into this job on 23 January, 14,500 farmers who were due money had not been paid because there was-----

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: There were processing problems there. I said to the Deputy now we are down to 2,961 farmers left to be unpaid-----

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: -----and we will have those resolved. Obviously, I have to manage out the budget for the rest of the year.

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: The Deputy is not wrong.

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: The Deputy's point on TB, which he articulated very clearly here and in the previous meeting, is completely combined with the second point he made. It is about having enough money to be able to address all elements of transmission here and support farmers who are impacted by breakdown. I have said very clearly that €73.5 million was allocated in last year's budget. In last year's...

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: In fairness, it is a big ask for the Department of Finance to approve that. Unlike other Ministers who ask for money to do extra things that would be nice to have, I have a very strong business case here. If I get the money to be able to make this investment-----

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: -----I can make savings.

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: It was announced in the most recent budget that the beef welfare scheme would increase by €25 per animal. The sheep improvement scheme was increased by €5.

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: It is for this year. That is the plan. Obviously, I have to manage the budget I have there.

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: That is up €5.

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: To make a quick point in response, it is not just about the money. The conditionality around drawing it down has put some farmers off, particularly farmers who are part-time farming. I discussed this previously. Part of this feeds into the renegotiation of the next CAP and delivering proper simplification.

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: No, it is. I am just saying it is not just about-----

Select Committee on Agriculture and Food: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Further Revised)
(18 Jun 2025)

Martin Heydon: I am answering the Deputy's point.

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