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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: I will come on to permanent measures, but this point concerns one-off measures.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Is that always the case? Say we do not do as Mr. Barnes suggests and just use the €2.5 billion; say we use €4 billion but it is properly targeted. If you offset the price increases in energy for low-income deciles, you are not creating inflationary pressure. It is only if you do what the Government did the last time, which was 90% untargeted, that you create inflationary pressure.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: How does the Irish Fiscal Advisory Council arrive at the view that €2.5 billion is the appropriate figure for one-off measures? Is it just because that was announced last year, before we had a cost-of-living crisis, or has it carried out assessments as to the impact of this crisis on these families?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: How will it impact domestic demand, which we have seen contracting over the last while? There is also talk of a potential recession and so forth.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Does the council have a projected figure for the general Government balance for 2023?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: If we go to budget 2023 and look at the package that has been outlined, we see that there is an expenditure envelope of €2.65 billion. However, when you take away the public sector pay deal, if approved, the number is reduced to about €1.6 billion. In the context of a cost-of-living crisis, a healthcare system that is falling apart and needing more investment in housing,...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Does Mr. Barnes agree with the figures I outlined? Unallocated expenditure is €2.65 billion and if the public sector pay deal goes through, it is likely to come down to approximately €1.6 billion.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Yes.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: I wish to ask the ESRI a final question.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Mr. Barnes is saying there is not a lot of space. We are in a far better position than we were last year. There is not a lot of space because the Government has set out in its summer economic statement that this is what it is going to do. Mr. Barnes is concurring with that. There is space if one wants it. I am dealing with families in Donegal who are homeless, kids who are in hostels and...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Or one could raise tax on the wealthier, which would reduce inflation.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: I welcome our guests to the committee. I do not mean to correct Deputy Durkan, but I must mention that when Ireland introduced a wealth tax in 1975, I was not even on this earth.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: My point is that at the time, we did not have many computers or indeed the Internet. The reason it was discontinued was the cost of collection, so that is the fact. The country that previous speakers were trying to identify which operates a wealth tax with a larger economy is France. It is still operating it despite many changes of government. They are not just the Deputy's facts but-----

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: -----they are the actual facts. Dr. McDonnell spoke about the overall budgetary package. He said he thinks it is appropriate. We know that the non-allocated expenditure that the Government has available to it for budget 2023 is €2.7 billion. That must accommodate the public sector pay deal if it is agreed. If it is agreed, the non-allocated expenditure will come down to...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Obviously, that would make sense and we have been operating contingency funds for the last number of years. On the core expenditure, what would be available is likely to be €1.6 billion, but Dr. McDonnell is saying that it will not be enough because he has called for at least the protection of social assistance increases, which would cost €1.7 billion. That means one is not...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: I will move on to my other question because I used all my time the last time and did not get to question the ESRI. I appreciate the response from Dr. McDonnell. I have a question for Mr. Fergal O'Brien. IBEC's pre-budget submission did not have any specific proposals on energy costs for business. There is huge volatility here and it could get really messy in the next couple of days,...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: What does that look like for the indigenous sector? What kind of shape should it take?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Updated Economic and Fiscal Position in Advance of Budget 2023: Discussion (7 Sep 2022)

Pearse Doherty: I thank Mr. O'Brien.

Summer Economic Statement: Statements (14 Jul 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Tá bagairtí suntasacha agus dúshláin shuntasacha roimh gheilleagar na hÉireann agus roimh mhuintir na hÉireann san am atá amach romhainn, ón ghéarchéim chostas maireachtála go dtí teipeanna leanúnacha i réimsí mar thithíocht, shláinte agus chúram leanaí. Ag an am céanna, tá bagairtí...

Ceisteanna ar Pholasaí nó ar Reachtaíocht - Questions on Policy or Legislation (14 Jul 2022)

Pearse Doherty: Go raibh maith agat, a Cheann Comhairle, or I should call you "a mháistir"? I wish to associate myself with his comments. On behalf of Sinn Féin, I wish to commend all of the staff in Leinster House, including the caterers, the ushers and the cleaners, who have guided us during us this term. Hopefully, we will all be back here in good health, safe and sound, for the next session...

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