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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: That will give no solace to a business faced with a big increase during a recessionary period while businesses in other counties receive no increase. The matrix provided indicates that businesses in several counties will not be revalued until 2021. Some might consider such businesses lucky. There seems to be some disparity as retailers have to shoulder a bigger increase than industrial...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: Which could take 20 years, judging by how things are going.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: Wicklow is not very far from Dublin.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: I am trying to highlight how much things have changed since 2014. I am not clear about the selection process because as regards the quantity of businesses, a huge amount of money is tied up in Cork city rateable valuations. As regards geographical reasons for selection, the matrix shows that some neighbouring counties have not been revalued and are getting a pass, with Wicklow not to be...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: Does Mr. O'Sullivan think the system is fair?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: He does not think it is fair.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: Does Mr. O'Sullivan think it is fair?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: Mr. O'Sullivan can appreciate that a business may find the system very unfair.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: A business may find it unsatisfactory or unfair. As regards Mr. O'Sullivan not being prepared to say the Valuation Office operates efficiently, is the €41 million referenced by the Comptroller and Auditor General as having been spent by the office on this process to the end of 2016 reflective of the phase 1 valuation of south Dublin, Fingal, Dún Laoghaire, Dublin city, Waterford,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: I want to know to which counties that €41 million relates.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: I want to deal with the €41 million, not the updated figure. I have------

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: The €41 million was-------

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: September 2017.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: The Comptroller and Auditor General today stated that related to 2016. I would like clarity on that date.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: Does the figure of €41 million encompass only phase 1 of the revaluation process in the counties I listed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: If someone is doing the numbers, in the case of outsourcing in Carlow, the cost appears to be approximately €535 per property. The Comptroller and Auditor General has done the work on the total cost involved. Based on this figure, it appears that the figure of €41 million will be significantly exceeded. Does Mr. O'Sullivan agree?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: Does the Department have systems in place that will show this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: Does the figure includes wages, salaries, overheads and every other cost?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: The Department is already able to do this.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 11: National Property Revaluation Programme
(25 Jan 2018)

Peter Burke: It is hard to have confidence in that figure if the Department cannot do as Mr. O'Sullivan described. The core of activity based costing is giving a result in terms of how much something cost. If the Department cannot figure out the cost of a revaluation or other work associated with it, it is very difficult to have confidence in the figure Mr. O'Sullivan has provided.

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