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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The commissioners came before us last July in respect of their concerns about co-operation with GSOC investigations by senior management of the Garda Síochána. Protocols have been in place since. I am particularly interested in the public interest investigation conducted by GSOC. Am I correct that it is a public interest investigation, without naming individuals, into reports...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: With regard to that investigation, one of the issues investigated by GSOC led to it reporting that it had profound difficulties for a number of years in getting co-operation from senior management in the Garda Síochána in that investigation. Will Mr. FitzGerald take us through some of the difficulties in respect of time limits and getting documentation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Mr. FitzGerald appeared on "Prime Time" on RTE and there were a number of issues about the handling of informers in terms of the Morris tribunal that had not been learned. The issue of the Morris tribunal was central in respect of the handling of informers and the retention of contemporaneous notes. GSOC stated it had grave concerns the lessons had not been learned from the Morris tribunal....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We will take those questions first and I will let the Deputy back in again. They are fairly straightforward questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: That is noted and I thank Ms Foley.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The Deputy can ask one additional question. His time has elapsed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Before I call Deputy Harrington to ask what will be his last question, because the time has elapsed, I want to say that the three commissioners can respond; it is not expected that the chairman should do so. It is fine for whoever is the most appropriate to deal with the question to respond. I want to reassure the witnesses on that. I understand Deputy Harrington has four minutes...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The next speaker is Deputy Michael Kitt.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: No problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: The Deputy should note that whenever the chairman concludes his response, his time will be up. Does he wish to ask one more question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Before Mr. O'Brien answers, Deputy Flanagan's time is almost up. Does he want to avail of one more question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: No; it is two minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: No. This is the Deputy's final question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Deputy Ó Snodaigh is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: We should seek a response.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: Go ahead.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I remind the Deputy that his time is up. If the Deputy has an additional question, it must be asked now rather than afterwards.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I will allow each questioner two minutes because we are running over time. I will warn each member towards the end of his or her contribution.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: That is the end of the Deputy's questions. I have to be strict.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Public Service Oversight and Petitions: Security and Protocol Issues: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (12 Feb 2014)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: I advise the chairman to take legal advice on that matter. It is a fair question in bringing the issue into the public domain, but he may wish to take legal advice before he responds.

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