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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: Obviously, if the directive came into force in 2002, this must be the fourth mapping exercise. Is that right?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: Do any of Mr. Gallagher's colleagues know?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: On that basis, this is the second or third report.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: Can the witnesses confirm whether it is the first or second mapping exercise?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: The directive dates from 2002 and was commenced in 2006, as per what Mr. O'Duffy said. It requires a periodic review every five years and we need to determine how well that is being implemented. The directive is 16 years old but was commenced 12 years ago. It would be important to scrutinise how the directive was implemented before giving further responsibility to the organisation in terms...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: I am sorry to return to this point but we need further clarification on the noise directive of 2002, which was implemented in 2006, in terms of how it has operated. I accept that greater regulation of noise at our airports was not a decision of the Irish Government but of the EU. It is a directive that has been imposed on all EU countries. From what the witnesses have said today, we need...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: Nowhere in the directive is there a mention of a planning process. The whole purpose of the directive is to identify a competent authority that can deal with noise regulation. The airport needs certainty to deal with those two planning conditions. The residents also need certainty. That is supposed to be the purpose of the independent authority. We will have a parallel process by the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: I have a certain degree of sympathy for the officials. The captain of the ship has moved the goal posts a number of times; a great deal of time has been expended on the IAA and we are now trying to develop a robust authority within a tight timeframe. I respect the fact that the Department is working within a timeframe, but we must get the Bill right. We do not need a complex authority or a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: It is fine to revert to me with information on what is being done in other member states. I expect Mr. Gallagher to be able to identify everything being done in all of them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: Mr. Gallagher indicated that he wanted to reply to the question about the timeframe for meeting the noise abatement objective.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: Head 6 reads, "as soon as practicable", but the wording is vague and gives no clear timeframe for how it will be implemented-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: -----yet it is one of the main considerations. Head 8 - review of the noise abatement objective, states the "noise abatement objective for the airport shall be published with the noise action plan for the airport on the website of the Competent Authority once it has been defined". Anyone watching this meeting would ask when that might be. How long is a piece of string? When will we know?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: No. I am sorry, but, according to the explanatory note, it will not be within eight weeks of establishment. The explanatory note reads: "The Competent Authority shall invite submissions in relation to the draft noise abatement objective. Following the public consultation-----"

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: The explanatory notes continue: "and having considered any submissions, the Competent Authority shall define the noise abatement objective". How long will it take to publish the draft noise abatement objective? My understanding is it will be not later than eight weeks after the process I have outlined. That is my reading of it, but perhaps I am wrong.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: We have no timeframe for how long it will take to reach that point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: On funding, is there a reason for the vagueness? It will be funded by the industry. What level of engagement has the Department had with the CEO of Fingal County Council? To be fair, Mr. Gallagher has acknowledged that an increase in the council's capacity will be required. Have the additional resources that will be needed been identified? What is the ballpark figure for the funding that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: I appreciate the witnesses' forbearance with this. They may need to come back in respect of a timeframe for the noise abatement objective, which is important. It is a critical component of this legislation. I would like that as quickly as possible. I cannot think of the wording but it is vague.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: A clear timeframe needs to be inserted. Proceeding with a a planning application running at the same time as an application to remove a condition on noise is again cumbersome. That has been acknowledged by Mr. Gallagher. I think he used the word "clunky" but clunkiness can cost money and cause delay. That needs to be revisited and the need for it examined. I am not a technical expert but...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Airport Noise Regulation Bill 2018: Discussion (3 Oct 2018)

Robert Troy: It appears that is unnecessary duplication. I would appreciate it if Mr. Gallagher would also examine that. We mentioned this earlier, and perhaps I missed it, but why was a decision taken to remove Dublin Airport from strategic infrastructure development? It certainly is of strategic importance in national policy, SID.

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