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Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: They could have some of that ground work done where they know something would work in an area, or which area to go to, for example, for various reasons.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: That would be very welcome.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: From my personal view, it would be welcome but there are other issues we need to deal with around education and stuff like that. Does Mr. O'Sullivan have a list or number of Travellers who are currently in emergency accommodation?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: It states in Mr. O'Sullivan's statement that there are significant challenges-----

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: So the regular homeless figures that are published monthly will have Traveller numbers in them.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: I could be wrong, but that cannot be right.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: There were 48 presentations across the State of Travellers looking for homeless emergency accommodation.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: I would have thought there were 48 in Limerick alone, never mind across the whole State.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: Say there are only 48 Travellers looking for emergency accommodation in-----

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: I totally understand that. I still find the figure very low. I hope that is the case, but it sounds bizarre.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: Then why are only 48 people applying for it?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: I am definitely running out of time. I will go back to the change in the allocation of moneys. How many councils have been refused? How many applications came in last year, for instance, from local authorities?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: It was suggested that the Department would give €23 million for capital expenditure in 2025.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: Is that down by €6 million on 2023, for example?

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: Going back to the homeless figures, Mr. O'Sullivan may have misinterpreted my question. He referred to 48 presentations in a quarter. I was actually asking how many people in emergency accommodation were Travellers.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: As Senator Flynn said, probably 6% or 7% of those are Travellers, so that would be 900 to 1,000.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: In fairness, Mr. O'Sullivan has come to this committee today and we are discussing, in his own words, the delivery of accommodation for Travellers, but he cannot tell us how many are in emergency accommodation.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: How many? I am sorry----

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: It would be useful for us on the committee to know how many people in emergency accommodation identify as Travellers, yet Mr. O'Sullivan does not have that figure.

Committee on Key Issues affecting the Traveller Community: Funding Strategy for Traveller-Specific Accommodation: Discussion (19 Jun 2025)

Maurice Quinlivan: That is not what I am looking for. There are four quarters in every year and the homelessness crisis has been going on for a number of years. In my own constituency, there are Travellers who have been in emergency accommodation for well over a year. How do we count them?

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