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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: We are joined by the Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. Seamus McCarthy, who is a permanent witness at the committee. He is joined by Ms Maureen Mulligan, deputy director of audit. Apologies have been received from Deputy Deering. The minutes of the meeting of 18 April have been circulated. Are they agreed? Agreed. No matters arise that will not come up under correspondence. ...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: For the public record, we had a private meeting scheduled for yesterday to discuss documents produced by the secretariat as a result of the various meetings we have held in recent months. One of these documents is on broadband and the metropolitan area networks and the other is on housing. The timescale would have been quite tight with regard to discussing it yesterday and finalising it...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: As soon as is practical. We have information here today that is relevant.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is up to the members but I do not think we can produce and publish it before the local and European elections. To publish a report next week we would have to have absolute sign-off today and that time is very tight. As Chairman, I would not recommend publishing a report of the Committee of Public Accounts on housing and broadband in the week of the elections. It was a tight and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will be coming back to it. I just felt it was prudent for the committee to maintain its political independence at this time and not wade into the debate.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is Deputy Cassells referring to a particular page?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I thank the Deputy and invite Deputy Cullinane to comment on the general issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have had no discussion on it. We have not even had a preliminary discussion.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: My view is we had Mr. Watt before the committee a number of weeks ago to talk about capital projects. We listed all of the projects, starting with the national children's hospital and on through ten major projects. We had a discussion with Mr. Watt on the national broadband plan. A member of the committee - perhaps it was the Deputy - asked him whether he thought it should go ahead. He...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I concur with Deputy Cullinane's views. It is good to see this happen and nice to know that not everybody sings from the one hymn sheet. It is also good to see one line Department challenging another. That is useful and it is good that this information has been published. The correspondence is very important and if there is further correspondence from the Department of Communications,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I take that point.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I take the Deputy's point. Clearly, the meeting was not cancelled for political reasons but because of the volume of information that had come out in the previous 24 hours. To enable us to produce a report, I thought we needed to assess the information that had only became available before we would sign off on it. The Deputy is correct. The meeting was not cancelled for political reasons-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I take the Deputy's point completely.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Can the committee agree to make that request of the Committee on Budgetary Oversight, that it examine this matter?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Can we all agree?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Let Deputy Catherine Murphy finish.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the secretariat to put a letter together to the Committee on Budgetary Oversight covering the points that have been raised asking the committee to examine them.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: That will be a budget day matter. We will note and publish this documentation and incorporate it into our report on housing. The next item is No. 2123B, from Mr. Martin Fraser, Secretary General at the Department of the Taoiseach, dated 17 April, regarding our request for details on the whole-of-government approach to risk assessment. We will note and publish this document.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Very good. I hope they are all costed.

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