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- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Okay. Mr. Collins stated that the previous CFO did not brief him on the tripartite agreement in 2020, when Mr. Collins came in. I question the credibility of this. Mr. Collins stated that the person, as the former CFO, should have briefed him. That did not happen, according to what Mr. Collins said.
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: It is in relation to the actual salary piece. Can we just deal with the salary piece? Mr. Collins is saying that he was across that deal. I am reflecting on the answers he gave on that. He said that he concluded the standard part. I am trying to picture the scenario where Mr. Collins is concluding the standard part of Ryan Tubridy's salary, who had €440,000 or €495,000,...
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Surely, he was briefed on that.
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Did Mr. Collins ask whether there were any top-ups, side deals or diversionary routes?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Okay. I will ask about the end-of-year bonuses from 2017 to 2019 and the €120,000. As I understand it, Mr. Collins stated that was never paid and never accrued, yet the recipient actually finished up with it.
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Okay. It was deducted from his published earnings.
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Correct.
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: I will take Mr. Collins back to the consultancy and the agent, Noel Kelly, providing services to RTÉ. How much was the figure for that?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: The consultancy. The invoice came with "consultancy" written on it.
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: How much was the invoice for?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Are there any others?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Grant Thornton found that there was no evidence of consultancy. Is that correct?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: There is no evidence of it.
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Okay. On consultancy, if somebody came in to advise you who had been negotiating on behalf of agents and negotiating on behalf of a number of agents in RTÉ, does Mr. Collins think it is appropriate that they would be hired to do some consultancy work and to advise RTÉ, its team here, and Ms Dee Forbes etc. on strategy and how to deal with all of that? Is that appropriate?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: On reflection. This man had the whole thing in the palm of his hand. According to the Grant Thornton report, he wrote the letter demanding the final settlement. He sent a letter for the board and the director general to sign. He had the power of God, by the look of that and according to the Grant Thornton report. Surely, the minute you saw the letter, not just a red light would start...
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Would Mr. Collins not ask who the directors of the company were?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Okay. I will move on to Ms Forbes's resignation being asked for. Ms Licken was before the committee last week. When she came to the committee, how much awareness had she of what was happening in RTÉ and what was unfolding, in a general way?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Did Ms Licken know what it related to?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Did Ms Licken know that it related to false figures regarding pay levels for what is described as talent?
- Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)
Brian Stanley: Did any officials attend the meeting on Saturday, 24 June?