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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: But there is a lot of entanglement. If we look at the previous debate we had on the Curragh race course, your previous boss stood down and received a financial package the value of which we do not know. Why-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: He did not receive a package?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Apologies to the Chair for that. He stood down and took on the role in the Curragh so HRI is negotiating with him according to Ms Eade's previous replies regarding the Curragh.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: HRI is in engagement with The Curragh Racecourse. That is what Ms Eade said regarding its financial prospects. Is that not true?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Who does HRI have the discussions with?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: If somebody is coming to me with a proposition for the financial year to come, and HRI is discussing and looking for improvements and possibly responses, would that not constitute negotiation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: I would like to deal with the remuneration package for the CEO of HRI, starting with the Department. The Department of Public Expenditure and Reform set in place new guidelines on the recommended salary scale for the position of CEO. The previous CEO of HRI was on an existing salary scale of €50,000 plus. When the previous CEO stood down and a new CEO joined, the salary changed...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Ms Eade was the chief financial officer during this process. I understand that the business case that HRI provided to the Departments was based on a report by Marsh McLennan. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: In January 2019, March McLennan provided a provided a report to the HRI on the remuneration package for a CEO.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: On the position of the CEO. Was Ms Eade not aware of that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Ms Eade was the chief financial officer at the time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Can anyone answer? The report was provided to HRI in January 2019.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Who commissioned the report?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: I thank Mr. McCarthy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Did Mr. McCarthy say the remuneration committee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Does the chief financial officer not sit on that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: It strikes me as strange that the HRI commissioned the report in 2019 considering there was no vacancy and the established position of the package for the then CEO was secure.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: Yes, two years later.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Horse Racing Ireland: Financial Statements 2020
(22 Sep 2022)

Matt Carthy: I take it that nobody can answer whether the HRI examined whether it was possible to identify a candidate under the previously agreed DPER guidelines?

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