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Written Answers — Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection: Social Welfare Benefits (17 May 2022)

Colm Burke: 84. To ask the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the number of persons who are in receipt of the blind pension; her Department’s work in this area to support persons with disabilities; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [24382/22]

Written Answers — Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection: Social Welfare Benefits (17 May 2022)

Colm Burke: 123. To ask the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the number of persons who are still in receipt of the enhanced illness benefit to date; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [24381/22]

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Bus Services (17 May 2022)

Colm Burke: 233. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport if he will review public transport bus services (details supplied); the reason that services are curtailed; the reason that a renovated and restored bus station with reduced services is now operating; if the services will be restored; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [24453/22]

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Visa Applications (17 May 2022)

Colm Burke: 603. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality the progress to date in the appeal of the visa application by a person (details supplied) in view of the fact that the required documentation has been submitted to the Department twice; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [24434/22]

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: I thank all of our guests for coming before the committee and giving us the information we are seeking. One of the witnesses before the committee last Thursday has now decided to describe freehold and leasehold as freehold being like owning a car and leasehold like owning a caravan. Therefore, when someone owns a caravan they cannot set out the direction they go in. Taking this, it means...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Does it have full control over that building?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: My understanding is that it is then giving a licence to the new NMH board. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: In regard to the building itself, can SVHG mortgage the building as a separate entity?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Can we have clarification on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: People are looking for clarification. It is set out in writing that St. Vincent's can mortgage the NMH building. Is that correct or is it not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: The building is going to be a separate legal entity from the interest of St. Vincent's.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: That statement was incorrect in setting that out. Am I right?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: I am aware of that but the building itself cannot be mortgaged by St. Vincent's.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: This legal person has said also that the building will always belong to the landlord, St. Vincent's.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: While the lease is in place, am I correct that the HSE physically owns the building? That is the position.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Many people have been on about why the State cannot go for a compulsory purchase order CPO. For argument’s sake, if the Government decided tomorrow that it would not proceed and that it wants the freehold interest and, therefore, St. Vincent's decides not to enter into negotiations and this goes down the CPO route, what then would be the reaction of St. Vincent's Hospital to that proposal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: I am not sure whether the witnesses have seen the opinion of Stephen Dodd SC. Many people are quoting it and saying it is a way of dealing with this. He has given advices. My interpretation of his opinion is not the same as what is up on social media. The legal adviser might give us his view.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: In other words, Mr. O’Raghallaigh is saying that because the HSE is getting a 299-year lease, it would be very hard to argue that we are not getting full control.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: And that the State would have a difficulty on that issue alone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)

Colm Burke: There seems to have been misinformation provided at the meeting on Thursday. The word “demise” is set out in the lease and it clearly sets out that SVHG is demising the leasehold interest for 299 years to the HSE. When the legal expert was asked by another Deputy does St. Vincent's still retain ownership of the building, the answer was that, yes, it does. Mr....

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