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Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: As I said earlier, this is basically a transfer process, so powers of the Minister for Health are part of that. As a separate addendum, there may be a conversation with HIQA. I absolutely have a good working relationship with HIQA, and I will speak to the people in the authority. This Bill is a transfer piece so we are looking to transfer the powers in question from the Minister dealing...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Perhaps I am not understanding the request very clearly. HIQA can be kept under review. Its powers can also come under review if that is necessary. I will take all the Deputy's comments on board. Any time we are dealing with delivery that is to support individuals in long-term residential or respite care, I will do whatever I can to bring more assistance. I will absolutely work with HIQA...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Yes.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: I thank the Deputy for raising that issue. He cited Donegal as well as his CHO and so forth.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Sometimes we get an opportunity where we see a pattern, and when one sees a pattern one has to question the relationships. Sometimes it is the relationship with the provider, with the external, that is very important to understand. It is very important for staff working within that care facility to know there are other organisations from which they can seek support. It is not just the...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: We also have to acknowledge that the staff working in those services work incredibly hard. However, we need to know that the people in charge understand their own safeguarding policies and rules.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Like the Deputy, I asked the same question: what does that mean? Basically, my understanding is that legal advice was sought on that. On the day when the transfer would occur, it is who is actually responsible. My understanding is that is why it is included there. It is where the responsibility is, as part of the transfer on the day. The Minister of State will hopefully be doing that...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: I thank the Deputies for their contributions. In a nutshell, when a function transfers, then it transfers warts and all. I have been in the Department for the last 18 months and I have learned a lot from the experience. I have learned that we produce an inert report and I can only see sight of it on a particular screen, as it is not published. I agree with Deputy Durkan that there are...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Yes.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: The Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth, Deputy O'Gorman, cannot delegate the functions until the transfer is done. That is the first piece. Within the Department of Health, I have had delegated functions as Minister of State with responsibility for disabilities. To be fair to the Minister for Health, during the last 18 months for which I have been a Minister...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Yes, I do have such functions. The order was signed by the Minister.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Yes. It came late in 2020, but "Yes" is the answer.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Deputy Durkan agrees. I cannot convince Deputy Shortall otherwise-----

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Absolutely. That is no problem at all. I will provide an in-depth note explaining it.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: A comprehensive note, absolutely. We will do that.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (23 Feb 2022)

Anne Rabbitte: There is no watering down of functions. The Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth will have the same function as applied in respect of the Minister for Health but both Ministers will negotiate directly with the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform in respect of their own budgets. As of now, the budget for this piece was part of another budget but the...

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