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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: I concur with Ms Byrne about the importance of doing this and of getting it right. It is a good phrase "to have a system that is fully functional, reliable and accurate". I contend it is not possible to do that on a partitionist basis. Finally, I ask the Minister of State, Deputy Heydon, what interaction he has had at ministerial or official level with his sister department in the North....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: That does not reassure at all, I have to say. As it stands in the legislation, if I as a farmer go to any merchant in this State, purchase fertiliser and give my herd number, the onus will be on the merchant to upload all of that and it will be assigned. It is a very simple process. Am I supposed to say to somebody who might be in the parish of Cullaville - the parish crosses the counties...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: I agree with the Minister of State that the vast majority of people will adhere to this system and work to ensure it is fit for purpose because it is in the interests of Irish agriculture to have a system that stands up to scrutiny. The problem is some people will always try to circumvent some rules and the anomalies I have drawn attention to will allow that to happen, I would argue, fairly...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: I welcome Mr. Mulvany and his colleagues. I just want to touch briefly on the cyberattack of last year and specifically the individuals whose data may have been exposed. Have they been informed by the HSE that their data was incorporated into that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: What is the near future? Is that days, weeks or months?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: Mr. Mulvany mentioned a complex process. I do not think anyone would dispute that. We can all appreciate that would be the case and that a number of steps will need to be taken in response to it. My difficulty is getting an understanding of what step is informing those people whose data may have been exposed. It clearly was not the first or even the second. Where down the line is it?...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: As the HSE gets close to clarifying the scope of it, what is the estimate at this stage of the number of individuals who will have been affected?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: Are we into the tens of thousands?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: I assume that if the teams are put in place to contact all of these people, there would need to be some form of an idea as to how many people they would be expecting to contact.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: On the self-declared risk rating, it is essentially up to the HSE to categorise the associated risk in terms of the exposure. Have any or all of those who have been affected been rated at this point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: In respect of the National Ambulance Service, Mr. Mulvany’s briefing indicated that the NAS budget in 2021 was €203 million. Was the outturn in line with that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: In 2020.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: Why did the HSE annual report and financial statements not contain financial information relating to the expenditure of the NAS?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: Is it the intention to incorporate those figures specifically into the financial reports?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: In respect of the fleet, what is the number of ambulances under the auspices of the NAS?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: That is the figure for the ambulances as we all would know them. On what basis are they distributed nationally? Where would they be based predominantly? Are they allocated on the basis of hospital, CHO region or county?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: What is the breakdown of the age profile of those emergency ambulances?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: There is no ambulance in the fleet that is more than five years old. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: I thank Mr. Morton for that. My next question is for Mr. Mulvany. In terms of staffing cohorts, there was workforce review in June which set out a requirement for a net additional 1,317.5 whole-time equivalents by the middle of 2024. On the current trajectory, we are nowhere near reaching that. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(6 Oct 2022)

Matt Carthy: Sorry, but could Mr. Morton repeat that please?

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