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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: The overall figure of 90% includes money that is not actually subsequently spent on unclaimed prizes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Okay, so what I have said is accurate.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: That includes money-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I am interested to hear Mr. Algeo say that the ASAI contacted the lottery after our engagement with-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Did it contact the Committee of Public Accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Is it not strange that an advertising standards authority would contact somebody who was not present at the Committee of Public Accounts but not contact the committee? It would be useful if we were to seek clarification and a copy of that correspondence and also if we were to inform the Advertising Standards Authority of Ireland, in case it is not aware, that the 90% includes unclaimed...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I was in the car and was following the proceedings earlier. I will go back to my €10 analogy. I am the eldest in my family and when I was young it could happen that an aunt or an uncle would give me a tenner and tell me to make sure to get something for my little brother. I used to have a system whereby I would give him a euro and, therefore, I had lived up to the condition of the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: It would have been pounds back in the day.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: If you got a tenner in sterling, it was a good day.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: In fairness, the lottery is taking the piss in what it is giving towards top-up prizes. It is going to the absolutely bare minimum. Is that not fair to say?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I am not saying the lottery does not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: There are two ways the lottery can spend the money. As a matter of interest, would there be anything stopping the company if it decided to allocate a portion of that money towards good causes? Is it so rigid that it has to be spent on top-up prizes or marketing, or is there a flexibility such that if it decided that it would apportion some of that towards good causes, it could do so?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: There has been much talk about player welfare. I hope this is an area that the national lottery plans to improve, based on the responses earlier. If player welfare is a serious consideration, then this aspect needs to be quantifiable. We are the Committee of Public Accounts and this is how we deal with things. We must be able to assess whether an agency or company we are dealing with is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Those were the figures for 2021. I presume the national lottery expects this level to increase.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Regarding online purchases, is there a limit on the number of tickets individuals can buy in this way?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: What are those limits?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: If someone was spending €900 in a month, would a red flag be raised? How would this kind of situation be dealt with?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: What is AB testing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: What happens if somebody does not reduce such activity?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report on the Accounts of the Public Services of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 19 - Exchequer receipts from National Lottery ticket sales
(8 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: For the most recent period covered by the company's figures, how many people were contacted by phone? Does Mr. Algeo have the figures for 2021?

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