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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Is that Department represented at the meeting? Do the officials envisage any scenario whereby the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform would approve a State body spending €1.5 million it did not need to spend?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I do not know how these things work but would it not be a good idea, when everybody is being asked their opinion, to go to the people who will be involved in the final sign-off and ask them whether we are wasting our time and whether there is any chance this will be signed off upon?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: What timeline does Mr. Bourke envisage for the OPW to decide whether it is minded to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 8 - Contract payments in respect of Convention Centre Dublin
(15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Surely the OPW considers this situation advantageous. This is one of few situations in which a State body can have the views of the Committee of Public Accounts and the Comptroller and Auditor General before a financial transaction is made. The OPW will not have to risk the prospect of negative reports or comments on its audit. It will not have to take the risk that the committee will...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I propose that we follow up as suggested by the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Which number is that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I am fine on that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: While Deputy Murphy is preparing her notes, I have two points to make in respect of the briefing note circulated by the HSE. The first is on the contact with the individuals whose data had been exposed during the cyberattack in 2021. The HSE indicates that it has begun sending out letters to 113,000 individuals. It says that over the 16-week notifiable period, subjects will receive a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Yes, point 1 deals with our query in respect of an exit package to the former CEO of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board. Almost throughout the tenure of that CEO, there were quite regular discussions on how his salary was kept confidential. It was one of the few heads of statutory boards for which the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform had allowed the salary package to be kept...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: A number of members acknowledged last week when we were dealing with the national lottery representatives that there was not an obligation on them to be here but that, nevertheless, some of their answers were very unsatisfactory. In response to a number of instances where information was sought, they indicated that the information had been provided to the regulator and would not be provided...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I agree with that. In addition, in the course of our deliberations, the national lottery representatives indicated that the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland, ASAI, had contacted the national lottery to clarify information that emanated from our discussions with the regulator. I do not know whether that matter has been followed up since then. It was indicated that as of last...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: We are seeking an understanding as to why contact was made with a third party in respect of information exchanged between the Committee of Public Accounts and the regulator without also contacting us for a copy of that correspondence and a broader explanation as to whether it is standard practice that contact would be made with third parties to clarify information that is raised in the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: As I said previously, I think we should wait until the Deputies who raised this matter are here to deal with it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I was only forwarding on additional correspondence that had come through.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: My understanding is that we previously agreed to seek a response from the Charities Regulator. I presume that will be an item of correspondence in the new year.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: In fairness, it has been a busy couple of weeks, so I can understand why the Deputies who first contacted the committee have not been able to attend meetings. To give them their due, could we include it as an item of correspondence as well at the first meeting in January, regardless of whether we have received a response from the Charities Regulator?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (15 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: There was a query as to the process by which the Minister would appoint members to the board of a company, which is not owned by the Government. With your indulgence, Chair, could I put this matter back until January, just to get my notes together properly?

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Garda Investigations (14 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: The 50th anniversary of the bombings at Belturbet in County Cavan, Clones in County Monaghan and Pettigo in County Donegal will be marked on 28 December. The three bombs exploded within 49 minutes of each other. It is widely believed that the UVF in conjunction with British state agents were responsible for the attack. Nobody has ever been held to account. For many years, the response...

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Garda Investigations (14 Dec 2022)

Matt Carthy: I thank the Minister of State for the update on the investigation. I ask him to give an assurance that he will endeavour to consistently update the families of the two victims he mentioned, Geraldine O'Reilly and Patrick Stanley, and the family of Paddy McCabe regarding any progress in that investigation. Will he also ensure that Justice for the Forgotten continues to be recognised for the...

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