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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: The public business before us this afternoon is as follows: minutes; accounts and financial statements; correspondence; work programme; and any other business. The minutes of our meeting of 7 December have been circulated. Do any members wish to raise any matters relating to the minutes? No. Are the minutes agreed? Agreed. They will be published on the committee web page. We move...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Yes. We can address it publicly. There is no problem with that if we want to discuss it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is promised in the new year. There is correspondence today from RTÉ on it. I will ask the clerk to get an update later on that. Members may not have seen it yet. No. R2275 C is correspondence from RTÉ dated 11 December 2023. I propose that we note and publish this item. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay. We can do that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: We will do that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: The money was not there. I remember-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: The official from the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform might answer this question. What was the problem? Was there not a demand for affordable housing? Deputy Murphy has outlined the issue of staff. There has not been one provided yet for the affordable housing scheme in County Laois. It is only being advertised now. Was it the view of the...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----and say-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am asking the Department to go a step further. On layout and light, the officials know, and I have said this to them previously, that if there is a four-acre site where 40 houses are to be built, that is where the design is done as regards the layout of the site. The layout of the site has to be a blank canvas. I understand that. For example, you try to have as many windows as possible...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: You are going halfway.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: We want a good social mix.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Yes. Perhaps we could do that in the new year.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I apologise for interrupting. Many termination of tenancy notices will come into force early in the new year. A number of the people involved will be going into emergency accommodation or will have to seek other private rented accommodation. If that is the case, and the supply is drying up, you then have this added layer of Ukrainian refugees coming out of 90-day temporary international...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: This is an area of concern. It will need to be monitored. I thank Ms Stapleton for the answers and information. I thank the Housing Agency and the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage and the Department of Public Expenditure, NDP Delivery and Reform for attending and preparing the documents for today. I also thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and staff for...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Are there any questions? Is it agreed to note and list the financial statements? Agreed. The accounts and financial statements will be published as part of the minutes. The next item is correspondence. As previously agreed, items that are not flagged for discussion at this meeting will be dealt with in accordance with the proposed actions that have been circulated. Decisions taken by the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I ask the Deputy to wait until I have gone through the formal procedure first and then we can discuss it. No. R2276 C is correspondence from RTÉ, forwarding correspondence from Ms Geraldine O’Leary, dated 11 December 2023. I propose that we note and publish this item. Is that agreed? Agreed. Deputy Murphy wants to come in.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I know what the Deputy is saying. I have been reading it as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Just to clarify, the Deputy is referring to the public document.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: We know from the various correspondence from RTÉ that that person acted as meeting secretary in that they took notes and recorded what happened at the meeting, which was subsequently put into an account and the public document we received. I think we all agree that reflected what was in the private notes.

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