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Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: We are moving on.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I am moving on.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have allowed more than enough time. Deputy Callaghan is next.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: All members who have been present in the room have spoken and I thank them for their contributions. I will now give five minutes to our non-member, Senator Higgins.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Yes. Can Senator Clonan do five minutes?

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: It is important that we follow the format.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I am taking a list for short questions. On that list I have Senator Craughwell and Senator Clonan.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have to cut it here.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I am cutting it off. I ask the witnesses to just answer that specifically.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have to leave it now. I have allowed way over the time.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have allowed way over the time.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Maybe for the last question, if there is something-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: That is the question. What does it cover? Maybe the witnesses could submit to the committee what it covers in response.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I cannot allow any more time on it.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: No, this has gone way over.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I have to cut it at that, sorry. Senator Craughwell can ask one short, sharp question.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I appreciate that. Senator Tom Clonan is next, and he will be followed by Deputy Ó Laoghaire.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Short answers.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The Deputy needs to ask a question.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Jul 2025)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Perhaps I will put a question myself. I thank the witnesses for their contributions. We at this committee are trying to make the best decisions but have severe time constraints in respect of the pre-legislative scrutiny of this Bill. Mr. Brennan said he was surprised by the public reaction and how the public has misinterpreted what the removal of the triple lock is all about. Does that...

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