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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Did the Department go to the Department of public expenditure to ask it to give a special dispensation because the Department was at fault, not the farmer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Will the witnesses do that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: If a farmer has to pay €9,000 in college fees because of this, tough luck.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Their kids could be going to college.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: What sort of helpline is the Department talking about setting up to deal with farmers on ACRES? To be fair, a person could ring that man over there, Willie Murphy, but other than that - I am talking about the ACRES side of it - when you ring Wexford, it is like trying to ring Santa. You never get an answer. Mr. Savage is the senior person. I rang him myself a few times and did not get an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I will show Mr. Savage on my phone if he wants to see.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: You press the button to call back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Mr. Savage did not call me in the past week about it if he knew about it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Will Mr. Savage explain if I am right in saying that when BISS, CRISS and all of those have their mapping done, when the Department imposes its maps down on it, that they were not adding up? This is what we have been told. Was it that the Department got different contractors to do its digitisation or mapping than Portlaoise had?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Did the Department get different contractors?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Was there a problem with the layering?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Was it ever considered to do it like the French? The French department got a loan from its equivalent of the Department of public expenditure, paid the farmers the money, and when it was rectified paid it back. Why was not that done for a few years? It is like a snake in the grass. The Department will get you sooner or later because people apply for payments every year. So if something is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I did not call them snakes but gave the equivalent that the Department can wait for you and get you.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Am I right that the average payment was €4,300? So if even €4,000 was given every year and a deal done with the Department of public expenditure and when it was rectified to pull it back, would that initiative not have saved an awful lot of hassle? The French did it in 2016.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Farmers would be entitled in the two years of 2023 and 2024 to €10,000 where they got €4,000 or €5,000.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Some farmers would have to get more money.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The Minister has agreed that he would set up an IT system because of the storm in terms of all roofs of sheds. Has that been done yet? When is it going to be done?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I know but when?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: When is later?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Delays in Departmental Scheme Payments: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Can Mr. Savage say whether that will happen in September, October, November or December?

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